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If the Plaza had an associated Patreon, would you prefer that to the site being ad-supported?

I'm happy with the sites as they are, adverts included
I'd support a Patreon, if it meant the sites went advert-free
I'd support a Patreon, even if the adverts remained
I'd support a Patreon for the site at $1 a month
I'd support a Patreon for the site at $3 a month
I'd support a Patreon for the site at $5 a month or more

Voting closes: February 14, 2023, 03:24:38 pm

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Offline teanndaorsa

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Site Funding
« on: January 24, 2023, 03:24:38 pm »
Nothing decided yet, but after saying no to yet another sketchy-sounding affiliate scheme, I thought I would sound out interest in other funding models for the Plaza. Money spent through the affiliates on the index pages pays for all the sites' hosting, but I'd prefer to be beholden to the readers than the advertisers.

To be clear, the site has no funding problems right now, just a lack of free time on my part to process the stories!

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Re: Site Funding
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2023, 03:28:12 am »
the current advertising isn't intrusive, so no problems there.  I wouldn't want to see anything that appends to the story text, like inserted page footers.  Those are very annoying.  Not a problem in the forum, but it would be a hassle when downloading stories.
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Re: Site Funding
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2023, 09:16:58 pm »
That post triggered mixed emotions in me. I've been on Gromet's plaza since the 90s, so I consider it amazing that it still exists today. That alone is proof enough that the formula works and I don't want it to change.

Thaaat said, I had a successful patreon and GP supported me a lot in this adventure and helped my success. So, I would feel guilty not to support a patreon option. But I need to put my rational hat on for a moment because of my personal experience with Patreon.

Patreon quickly turned into a second job for me. That's pretty much what it takes if one wants to pull serious revenue from that platform. Also, the biggest part of my revenue were from a handful of people, and its because they wanted to support my brain specifically, not various styles. People wouldn't have paid if they hadn't received precisely what they wanted to read(specific series). Asking people to support the site without providing a return on the investment is not a winning strategy on Patreon imo. What I'm saying is that I'm not sure what GP would have to offer if they want to pull this off in order to finance its operations. There has to be an added value or I cannot see this being worth the pain and effort.

I'm not saying this to sound negative. I'm just trying to put something constructive on the table. :)
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Re: Site Funding
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2023, 06:46:26 am »
If I could add to this. I found that subscribing to multiple Patreons to keep things running was difficult. Don't mind doing it it was just that I'd rather pay lump sums. So please if you go for a Patreon could you set it up so I can pay up front like 50 euro's and then cancel my patreon? That way I can do it when I have the means. (a bit like Wikipedia's annual contribution drive?)

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Re: Site Funding
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2023, 07:06:21 am »
I think the ads as they are now are not an issue at all. I'd even be OK with there being a few more of them as long as they are not placed in an overly intrusive way.

I'd also strongly prefer this awesome site to be utterly self-sufficient (future-proof) instead of having to rely on a system like Patreon plus subscribers.
Maybe offer a Patreon in addition for those that want to support the site additionally and use the additional(!) earnings not to fund the basics of the site but to fund improvements and new capabilities.
I.e.: Running/operational costs via ads and Patreon for enhancements.

Personally, I do not do Patreon for three reasons:
(1) My porn habits are intended to be a distraction, not a full-blown "hobby" that I'd pour money into.
(2) I dislike Patreon as a vendor, I do not like some of their policies, at all.
(3) They had multiple security breaches on very serious, and it was handled quite badly.

 

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