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ElectroPainLover:

--- Quote from: A Pensive Pen on September 19, 2016, 09:35:36 pm ---No worries at all. I certainly wasn't trying to put words in anyone's mouth, and apologies if I gave that impression!

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I didn't feel like you were putting words in my mouth Pensive, I had reread my post and it seemed a bit obligitory and wanted to make sure I wasn't misunderstood and my post had left a lot of room for it. After I looked it over I could see how one might get the impression that I may believe in the old practices of marriage and/or spousal abuse...If I hadn't wrote it, I might've gotten that idea.

Please do not feel as if I had taken offense...I didn't...and I thought you concisely explained your opinion on the subject and our opinions run fairly parallel to one another and we are on the same page.

I too believe the coffee ad was a bit harsh, but, Chase & Sanborn had always had somewhat racy commercials and such...same as Carl's Jr./Hardees do with thier scantily clad (though very hot) women selling hamburgers. C&S were sponsors for many radio comedy shows...Charley McCarthy & Edgar Bergen for one...and did some funny comercials that would seem a bit out of touch today.

Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that I took no offense but put it back upon me for not being more concise in my first post.

Dana -- EPL

64Fordman:
Thank you for your response and insight. Personally I prefer real life partners to be equals regardless of what happens in the bedroom. It’s interesting to note that all of the early examples of spanking in my original post occurred during a time when networks and studios would not show married couples sharing a bed.

‘I Love Lucy’, ‘The Dick Van Dyke Show’, and any movie Doris Day made with Rock Hudson or James Garner are good examples. Even more extreme was the TV show ‘Make Room for Daddy’ where Danny Thomas played a traveling night club performer. When he returned home from the road the two sons would have to share a room so Dad had a place to sleep even though his wife was in the house. Was this censorship run amok?

Meanwhile, The Three Stooges, Laurel and Hardy, and Bert and Ernie all shared a bed.

One time my ex was sick but decided she needed some so she rolled on top of me and started doing her thing. Well her nose was runny and it dripped into my mouth. My cold was a lot worse than hers. After I felt better she was teasing me about it and I put her over my lap, no pain, it was all in fun and not something we usually did. We had sex all over the house after that spanking.

After reading your comments I’m thinking maybe our political correctness pushed this out of main stream entertainment and left it solely in the hands of porn. It’s the same with bondage, I remember playful tie-up scenes in shows like ‘I Love Lucy’, ‘Bewitched’, ‘Lavern and Shirley’, ‘The Brady Bunch’, and ‘Happy Days’. Today comedies leave this subject alone, in dramas they are always sexual in nature and start out or end up non-consensual.

I don’t remember seeing a spanking scene back then that was depicted as abuse, it was always in a comedic nature. Even though Maureen O’Hara got spanked by John Wayne she certainly played strong women in all her films. Compared to the violence young people watch today was Lucy being spanked by Ricky that bad?

As for Dana’s belief fetishes grew out of the 60’s and 70’s sexual revolution, I’m not so sure. I read a book last winter titled ‘Victorian Women’ by Joan Perkin. The lives of women living in England during the 1800’s is revealed through letters and journals from women of all economic classes from maids to the Bronte sisters. Weather it was tying an adolescent’s hands to the bed at night so he doesn’t, you know, to punishing students for not completing lessons, or a Governess tying her unruly charges, the number of times someone being tied up is mentioned is astounding.

I don’t know about you but if I had a young Governess tying my hands every night so I wouldn’t, you know, that’s all I’d be thinking about.

ElectroPainLover:
I is funny how the censor's would allow certain things but not others. I think that spanking, back then, was not being considered a sexual thing but a punishment; whereas, a couple sleeping in the same bed allowed people to use their own knowledge of what they did when couples slept together.

Again, I didn't explain myself as clearly as I should have Fordman. A speaker that I used to listen to explained that when you are not understood correctly, it is not because the other person misunderstood you but because you didn't explain yourself well enough.

I do understand that BDSM and bondage has been around much longer than the 60's, but, that the sexual revolution brought people out of the closet about it afterwards. I don't believe, though I could be wrong, that there were too many fetish clubs prior to the sexual revolution. Now, however, you can find them quite easily with a little research or probably even looking in the phonebook. All one has to do is look at the sexual torture devices and bondage devices of the Middle-Ages to know how long torture and bondage has been around, but, afterward that time it was placed into the realm of being taboo because of how cruel, torturous, and, ususally deadly the devices was back then. I know that it never went completely away but believe it became more openly accepted by fetish practitioners after the sexual revolution.

I hope that clarifies my understanding a little more.

I too believe that relationships have to be equal outside of the bedroom. My ex and myself had an agreement on such things as; we would not spend more than $60 on something. Our problem was more an arguement on who would actually make a decision and not whom would win the decision but actually make it. Neither one of us wanting to seem as if we always made the decisions. However, I was much more the submissive in our relationship...even outside of the bedroom, though, there was no TOP or BOTTOM in our relationship other than position  :D

Dana -- EPL

64Fordman:
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