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Quote from: le Bouc on August 05, 2026, 08:16:15 PMI gave some thought to your response and you are correct. I never expect my partner to 'do the full monty' for me. Generally she surprises me whenever she does. And I probably threw around the word "objectify" a bit too flagrantly. I alluded to objectification on a scale, where I admire my wife's looks and appreciate the effort that goes into that (I also enjoy the envious looks stickman hook she gets when we go out). I think objectification can go from "Goddess worship" to treating a sub as an actual object [tied spreadeagle in a doorway and ignored or used as furniture]. I contend that I fall more in the former end of the scale. It's our own little game/perspective. Likewise she loves it when I get gussied up in a suit and says I resemble John Wick (I think she's really got a thing for himI think there's definitely something to the idea of women as art, especially when it's about admiration and self-expression rather than simply reducing someone to an object. Pinup art has that timeless quality, and I can understand the appeal of the whole "look but don't touch" aspect too. Ultimately, I think it works best when both partners genuinely enjoy the game and know where the boundaries are.![]()
). In thinking about us, it has gone both ways; I've seen guys hit on her, and less so she's seen women flirt with me (though she's much quicker to move to my side).
But getting back to my original thought, Google 'Pinup Art' and that's what I subjectively appreciate and my wife knows this and does for me on rare occasionsand I adore her for it. If you also Google Blessed Ludovica Albertoni statue, I find that beautiful as well (though the story behind the woman is a bit tragic).
Le Bouc

). In thinking about us, it has gone both ways; I've seen guys hit on her, and less so she's seen women flirt with me (though she's much quicker to move to my side).
and I adore her for it. If you also Google Blessed Ludovica Albertoni statue, I find that beautiful as well (though the story behind the woman is a bit tragic).


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