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Title: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: Trash girl on October 14, 2020, 01:44:37 am
https://discord.gg/FkSfyqRGca
everyone into trash feel free to join this link to a wonderful discord server ran for everything trash related
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: trashbagguy on November 26, 2022, 04:48:17 am
hi:

I have tried to join the discord server but it keep on saying it is invalid.  can you please re-upload the link.

Thanks
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: Trash girl on December 03, 2022, 10:31:01 pm
weird works fine for me but i'll set it up again then
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: Trash girl on December 03, 2022, 10:32:55 pm
hi:

I have tried to join the discord server but it keep on saying it is invalid.  can you please re-upload the link.

Thanks

you can try now
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 08, 2022, 10:46:11 am
Awwww, I am still there, but just as a lurker.
Does anybody miss me or is it really that much better so quiet???
Didn't seem like a caring group when i spoke my mind and shared with all. Even with the fact that I've been here since the early '90s. A very few in charge seemed to silence and attack everything that i had to say, maybe it's just my paranoia craziness. i was completely wrong about Covid and everything to follow(yeah right).
Same mod running this site to now, gomma silence me like a tyrant still???
What a shame for all really. Things really could be so much different and better for all of us trashies, but, let's continue to see how so vey few chose to run the majority.
i am willing to let it all go if you are. i just need the freedom of speech is all, like i said from the get go.
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 08, 2022, 10:52:11 am
Screenshots for my own records,
even if the mods refuse to look at them.
Hmmmmm, so very nice and proper of them.
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 08, 2022, 11:01:27 am
I tried to speak with the mods there about minors and age restrictions. They did tighten up the entrance but not sure about their tactics.
They definitely don't allow the darker adult kind of stuff but seem to be hunky dory about all the diapers and acting like children crap. Not really my cup of tea.
Not really sure why most of the trashies continue to wear blinders here instead of forming a better group that is not censored and acts so childish as the few running this group, but, if that's what the majority wants, they done get.
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 08, 2022, 11:09:17 am
Funny how my title here is newbie, yet, how many stories are really older than mine here?
Many have seen my pics on fet, haven't seen too many pics better than mine there. i do know of a few though, and i absolutely love what they share. Shame that it's only a handful, but, i think they know that i recognize them them amongst the trash. So very few stand out, do you??? The so called leaders stand out, or do they just rule???
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 08, 2022, 11:12:58 am
Hey trash girl, are you the the same dude that runs this group on discord???
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 08, 2022, 11:19:58 am
my apologies, i haven't been completely disposed of yet. i keep trying but can't seem to keep quiet and stay put in the garbage. Squeaky wheel gets the greasing ; )
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 08, 2022, 11:31:53 am
Trash Girl, as a mod, can i see your resume? Where can we find pics, vids, stories, etc???
i mean, you are a mod, acting leader, but i seem to know of so many other individuals that share their experiences, their resume, but, can't seem to really see much about you and your experience. Am i wrong to question this???
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 08, 2022, 11:37:33 am
i myself was always taught to lead by example. That's how i ran my yahoo groups way back in the day. Others did contribute more then. i promised to give if others put up some content too. Almost like competition to out do each other, but all the trashies won and thrived on it. Action begot more action.
Yup, i'm crazy, no idea of what i'm talkin bout.
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 08, 2022, 12:04:36 pm
i mean, the leader, owner, ruler, tyrant, whatever, of this discord group, really has very little trash fetish pics, stories, vids, etc, and not sure how they find themselves fit to really run a group and rule what others in the fetish can and cannot post pertaining to the fetish or not. i myself feel that the owner and mods there have a superiority complex and actually get off on feeling important and like a ruling class. When i 1st joined hesitantly, i was given mod status, and was completely appalled by all the crap talk about many members behind their backs within the private mod chat board. Wouldn't surprise me at all if that happens here too. Almost like a God complex fetish. It was very disturbing and disrespectful to me in my opinion. Wasn't much of a surprise how i was then ousted from this discord group when i spoke out about it. my opinion, this discord group is led by bitches that think that they are better than others. The majority of the members truly deserve better than that BS. Judgemental pricks running things and talking crap about their loyal members behind their backs while they themselves as leaders don't contribute hardly jack shiat.
i know this as fact about this discord group. You'd be hard pressed to prove me wrong.
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: Trash girl on December 08, 2022, 03:51:35 pm
Hey trash girl, are you the the same dude that runs this group on discord???

yes I am part of the mods on discord and I'm mod here for the trash section
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: Trash girl on December 08, 2022, 03:57:17 pm
i mean, the leader, owner, ruler, tyrant, whatever, of this discord group, really has very little trash fetish pics, stories, vids, etc, and not sure how they find themselves fit to really run a group and rule what others in the fetish can and cannot post pertaining to the fetish or not. i myself feel that the owner and mods there have a superiority complex and actually get off on feeling important and like a ruling class. When i 1st joined hesitantly, i was given mod status, and was completely appalled by all the crap talk about many members behind their backs within the private mod chat board. Wouldn't surprise me at all if that happens here too. Almost like a God complex fetish. It was very disturbing and disrespectful to me in my opinion. Wasn't much of a surprise how i was then ousted from this discord group when i spoke out about it. my opinion, this discord group is led by bitches that think that they are better than others. The majority of the members truly deserve better than that BS. Judgemental pricks running things and talking crap about their loyal members behind their backs while they themselves as leaders don't contribute hardly jack shiat.
i know this as fact about this discord group. You'd be hard pressed to prove me wrong.


SO MAKE YOUR GOD DAMM OWN DISCORD SERVER THEN AND SEE HOW WELL OF A COMMUNITY YOU CAN GET SINCE OUR GROUP ARE FRUN VERY GOOD AND WE DO NOT HAVE DICTATORS THRE
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: jakbird on December 08, 2022, 05:19:55 pm
Ahh, Discord, how appropriate the name.  To borrow a Roman legal term, res ipse dicit, the thing speaks for itself.

And to quote the immortal Stan Lee, "Nuff' said."
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 10, 2022, 09:32:54 am

SO MAKE YOUR GOD DAMM OWN DISCORD SERVER THEN AND SEE HOW WELL OF A COMMUNITY YOU CAN GET SINCE OUR GROUP ARE FRUN VERY GOOD AND WE DO NOT HAVE DICTATORS THRE
[/quote]

Yeah. So just like I thought and said then.
Not much content to share from leaders.
A bunch of judgemental pricks acting like baby dictators censoring others and talking crap about members behind their back.
Don't care to see screenshots showing truth because you want in their diapers.
This discord group is "FRUN VERY GOOD!"
LMMFAO
Please, as a mod there, don't run things here like y'all do there.
You can respect my opinion here, can't you?
Just giving my opinion here, about there, on this message board here.
I guarantee that I have been a member here longer than you, and have no desire to mod like you.
Have a FRUN VERY GOOD day ; )
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: trash princess on December 10, 2022, 12:34:24 pm
dude...shut the fuck up. seriously. this isn't the place.
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: Trash girl on December 11, 2022, 04:21:27 am

SO MAKE YOUR GOD DAMM OWN DISCORD SERVER THEN AND SEE HOW WELL OF A COMMUNITY YOU CAN GET SINCE OUR GROUP ARE FRUN VERY GOOD AND WE DO NOT HAVE DICTATORS THRE

Yeah. So just like I thought and said then.
Not much content to share from leaders.
A bunch of judgemental pricks acting like baby dictators censoring others and talking crap about members behind their back.
Don't care to see screenshots showing truth because you want in their diapers.
This discord group is "FRUN VERY GOOD!"
LMMFAO
Please, as a mod there, don't run things here like y'all do there.
You can respect my opinion here, can't you?
Just giving my opinion here, about there, on this message board here.
I guarantee that I have been a member here longer than you, and have no desire to mod like you.
Have a FRUN VERY GOOD day ; )
[/quote]

well your just a coward hideing in the shadows anyway
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 11, 2022, 06:05:38 am
Thanks for showing your true colors to everyone here and proving the point of what I am saying.
Very professional and proper of "mods".
"Hiding in the shadows", as if you have shared more of yourself with the trash community.
I ain't hiding obviously, I am speaking up here, ain't I? You punks are hiding by silencing, banning, censoring, slandering, talking crap about many members behind their back like a small group of gang stalkers. You punks are hiding by trying to stop me telling others about it and speaking my opinion about YOUR discord group.
Shove off or do what you will as so called leaders. Darn right I will still be everywhere watching.
Prove me right by silencing my own opinion that I am sharing with others as a warning of your true ways "Princess" and crew.
I may be crazy, but y'all are just pathetic.
Mod some more while not sharing hardly anything. Judge the artist members that share with all and talk crap about them behind their back and/or censor them. Losers.
Be simple minded with more ignorant BS talk. Most members can see you clearly.
Just my lousy opinion, but obviously plenty of truth here plucking your nerves.
Best wishes for the trash fet community, but I know that is not your true intention as mods with a better than thou mindframe.
I won't STFU, and you definitely ain't gonna make me.
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 11, 2022, 06:15:17 am
This isn't the adult place to give my opinion of what I saw as a moderator myself at the adult discord group being advertised here?
Where is the right place genius?
You can censor and ban me, but you won't shut me up.


Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: TrashyJadey on December 11, 2022, 10:21:46 am
You love having your name in my mouth, are you like obsessed with me or something?

Your opinions are what got you here, certain voiced opinions expressed by yourself were questionable and were derailing topics as members shyed away from you.

Not to even mention that every day you go on about freedom of speech, you have that, what you don't have is the freedom to speak without consequence. This isn't America, I couldn't and I'm sure Trash Girl and many other members couldn't give a single fuck what your constitution says. It doesn't apply to private websites, and even if they did. The discord group would be under British law because I made the server, and I still wouldn't give a fuck what your constitution says.

Give over, you're boring, I couldn't give a fuck if you're hiding in my server under some hidden alias. You'll know then that you are literally never mentioned by anyone, because you're irrelevant to most people. Fuckin', the only reason I'm here talking to you is because you can't get my name out of your mouth.
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: jakbird on December 11, 2022, 07:06:12 pm
Note to Teann:  Please, please don't shut the discord trash flame war down!  It's hilarious.  Yeah, out of place and all that, but I'm feeling nostalgic for the bad old days of the early Internet when innocuous posts degenerate into pure idiocy.  Is there a betting pool for the first appearance of Godwin's law?
  Jack Peacock
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: TrashyJadey on December 11, 2022, 11:55:55 pm
Oh god. Not Godwin's law, giving me memories of pre Discord forum arguments

Note to Teann:  Please, please don't shut the discord trash flame war down!  It's hilarious.  Yeah, out of place and all that, but I'm feeling nostalgic for the bad old days of the early Internet when innocuous posts degenerate into pure idiocy.  Is there a betting pool for the first appearance of Godwin's law?
  Jack Peacock
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 12, 2022, 01:09:28 am
Well said Jakbird. I know you ain't exactly siding with me, but...
My point here, is no matter how crappy, opinions matter.
I'm only in his mouth because they are pissed that they can't shut mine.
What kind of community will exist when nobody can speak freely?
What is this message board for then?
Opinions are like assholes(like me), everyone has one and they all stink.
They try to just ignore and silence truth about all their negative talk about others on hidden mod boards.
Talk about a stank garbage and shit smell. Whew!!! I could even taste it against my will.
Nobody has to read the shit, as I said there on THEIR discord group. The lack of community is because of nobody allowed to speak freely. Not like I was spamming or advertising a group or anything. People don't agree with others opinions, that's fine, but to gang up and put down others, that reeks of their own shit and intentions for the whole community.
I don't care for shit or diapers, but to each their own. I speak about politics, the gap between wealthy and poor. Try to warn others before the lockdown, and I am ousted for false allegations. I documented everything, didn't want mod status, and then the owner of group didn't even have the balls to talk with me and see the screenshots. Instead, promote the accuser, gang up, nit pick, censor, and ban me. I don't care that I am dragged through the mud. I do it to help the community. Just like my words of warning here and now.
The leaders of this discord group are judgemental, don't care for others opinions, will gang up to protect their own agendas that is not in the best interest of the whole community.
Great group is all I'm saying, and thanks for reading about my opinion, as well as theirs.
I miss the good ol' days as well, when people did post what they wanted. It was more free, live and let live, and there was a load of more garbage to pick through and enjoy.
Too hard for millennials to ignore and move on from others craptastic opinions. They don't even have to read it, but like "Karen", they gotta shut us crazies up. Best of luck with that. I speak my mind, unlike them censoring and banning. They don't want freedom of speech evidently and are completely okay with private groups. Might as well start discriminating by sex, color, age, religion, income, status, etc, etc. Fuggin spoiled wankers. I'm proud to be a hard knock Yankee. We don't need to agree, but who wishes to silence who???
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 12, 2022, 02:20:55 am
I'm obsessed with trashy Jadey???
Hmmmm, let's look at this...
I am just giving my opinion here and trying to tell others about their discord group after learning well enough 1st hand.
They keep telling me to shut TF up, censor and ban me. Defame and oust me.
They keep being very nationalist talking about British this and that like the Brittish Empire that ruled many foreign lands. British rule got their asses kicked out of America. Thing is, even though I am American born nationality, I am more about humanity worldwide, know how F'd and corrupt American government is, as well as many other governments of the world. Actually, I have had my dna tested and tracked my family tree back to Scotland from the early 1400's nobility. Go puff on that.
Clearly, Jadey and crew seem to be obsessed with themselves.
I will speak my opinion, despite their opinion.
Who is silencing who???
Obsessed with you??? Get a friggin clue ya self righteous, ruling class, wanker. I bend over, lift my kilt, and fart in yer general direction.
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: Trash girl on December 12, 2022, 03:06:21 am
Well said Jakbird. I know you ain't exactly siding with me, but...
My point here, is no matter how crappy, opinions matter.
I'm only in his mouth because they are pissed that they can't shut mine.
What kind of community will exist when nobody can speak freely?
What is this message board for then?
Opinions are like assholes(like me), everyone has one and they all stink.
They try to just ignore and silence truth about all their negative talk about others on hidden mod boards.
Talk about a stank garbage and shit smell. Whew!!! I could even taste it against my will.
Nobody has to read the shit, as I said there on THEIR discord group. The lack of community is because of nobody allowed to speak freely. Not like I was spamming or advertising a group or anything. People don't agree with others opinions, that's fine, but to gang up and put down others, that reeks of their own shit and intentions for the whole community.
I don't care for shit or diapers, but to each their own. I speak about politics, the gap between wealthy and poor. Try to warn others before the lockdown, and I am ousted for false allegations. I documented everything, didn't want mod status, and then the owner of group didn't even have the balls to talk with me and see the screenshots. Instead, promote the accuser, gang up, nit pick, censor, and ban me. I don't care that I am dragged through the mud. I do it to help the community. Just like my words of warning here and now.
The leaders of this discord group are judgemental, don't care for others opinions, will gang up to protect their own agendas that is not in the best interest of the whole community.
Great group is all I'm saying, and thanks for reading about my opinion, as well as theirs.
I miss the good ol' days as well, when people did post what they wanted. It was more free, live and let live, and there was a load of more garbage to pick through and enjoy.
Too hard for millennials to ignore and move on from others craptastic opinions. They don't even have to read it, but like "Karen", they gotta shut us crazies up. Best of luck with that. I speak my mind, unlike them censoring and banning. They don't want freedom of speech evidently and are completely okay with private groups. Might as well start discriminating by sex, color, age, religion, income, status, etc, etc. Fuggin spoiled wankers. I'm proud to be a hard knock Yankee. We don't need to agree, but who wishes to silence who???


fuck sake how young do you think most of are around her huh
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: jakbird on December 13, 2022, 03:54:52 am
They don't want freedom of speech evidently and are completely okay with private groups. Might as well start discriminating by sex, color, age, religion, income, status, etc, etc.

In an effort to bring the thread back around to stories on Gromet Plaza, I should point out that, as the handful of readers who struggle through my humble prosaic efforts are aware, I am all for suppression of free speech, a strong advocate of private groups who deliberately exclude the great unwashed masses (and their laws), and encourage discrimination based on every known politically correct icon of virtue signaling, especially anything related to the gender hot topic of the day.  And on top of that I vote party line Libertarian (anarchists for those unfamiliar with US political parties) in elections, which has to place me far out on the fringe of society's rejects.

I would politely ask for some assistance from other forum members.  What is it about garbage that inspires such passionate fervor over a group on Discord, of all places?  There ought to be some kind of entertaining story behind all this (is there a better thread ripe for a good Swiftian satire?), but for the moment the underlying concepts escape me.  Am I too old, am I handicapped (look! PC incorrect word) by being educated, does my background in electronics engineering and the necessity of rational, critical thinking hopelessly cripple (and another!) any chance to comprehend what's going on?  Instinct says there's gotta be something to write about here, if only someone can fill in what I'm missing.

So what do you say?  Help me out with my Modest Proposal to bridge the gap between Lilliputian subject and Brobdingnagian flame war!
  Jack Peacock
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: teanndaorsa on December 13, 2022, 07:26:00 pm
Note to Teann:  Please, please don't shut the discord trash flame war down!  It's hilarious.

Seems to me like there's a fair amount of "digging your own hole" here; for now I'm not inclined to intervene. People can make their own judgements based on the comments made already.  :-X
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: Trash girl on December 13, 2022, 08:20:16 pm
Note to Teann:  Please, please don't shut the discord trash flame war down!  It's hilarious.

Seems to me like there's a fair amount of "digging your own hole" here; for now I'm not inclined to intervene. People can make their own judgements based on the comments made already.  :-X

no need to worry I got this handled for now if things get out of hand I'll ask for it
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 14, 2022, 01:46:03 am
Irony...
Things are already out of hand more than you realize.
Jessie, do you remember me as mod there right before you were promoted to mod?
You are one of the ones that they were talking crap about. Quickly, I mean now, go in the private mod message boards and go way back before you were promoted to mod, if you can and it hasn't already been deleted by owner and/or crew.
You yourself are among the few, exactly why I am speaking up.
Irony!!!
Anyway, they thought that you talk too much and are annoying, just like me.
I personally felt that you may be underage, and steered well clear of that right there.
You might want to analyze things, take a big step back and look at the bigger picture here.
Irony yo.
I still have screenshots.
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 14, 2022, 01:53:31 am
Jessie, I remember you.
Please look at my email, same as my user name, that was drug through the trash sludge.
Remember how they didn't want to make you a mod, as it seemed very important to you???
Please don't feed on the so called power that you think that you have because of being a mod "leader"!!!
Lead by example. What is right for the majority of the community instead of the few running it straight to the landfill.
You don't need to agree with me, but, where will we all end up when you silence yourself to fit in and appease the so called leader elite??? They will never see you as equals yo.
Irony.
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 14, 2022, 01:57:12 am
Well said Jak.
I may not agree completely with everything you said, but, I weigh your opinions and it does help and change our own viewpoints as individuals in everyday matters and concerns. So, thank you. For all of your opinions here.
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 14, 2022, 02:00:47 am
As for why here???
Where else but the trash can headed for a local landfill?
Who silences the rubbish? Really???
They spam the link, I give my opinion with prior experience there.
Or, everyone sees how one-sided.
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 14, 2022, 02:08:04 am
Are they really in my mouth?
Am I obsessed with them?
Really???
I know many of them by name, but didn't say any of their names. Not from my tounge.
They will try to silence me while defaming me and what I choose to say.
Hmmmmm.
Think about it please.
Great group there LMMFAO
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 14, 2022, 02:22:05 am
My middle name...
https://youtu.be/953PkxFNiko
Whatever rhymes with eloquent.
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 14, 2022, 02:45:52 am
Not meaning to kiss ass or any of that crap, but, thank you teanndaorsa for moding like a legend in my opinion, by allowing everyone's input here as apposed to censorship. Too many leaders have silenced others within the trash fet community. One-sided fascism is no good for the whole community. Equality for everyone is the answer. We're all adults, right? We are mature enough to decide for ourselves without some parent, government, mod, hiding reality from us in our so called best interest.
Thank you for allowing everyone here to have their own opinion and choice.
Well done as a mod in my opinion.
I would absolutely love to hear others opinions as well, if they choose to here. That is what message boards should be.
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: jakbird on December 14, 2022, 04:32:03 am
One-sided fascism is no good for the whole community. Equality for everyone is the answer. We're all adults, right? We are mature enough to decide for ourselves without some parent, government, mod, hiding reality from us in our so called best interest

Though not an expert on the subject of trash talking I would like to point out when it comes to themes of domination and submission good old one-sided fascist attitude is essential to the story.  The dominant leads by sheer force of will, heedless of consequences.  The submissive follows, inexorably drawn to the personality of the individual, willing to be led wherever the dominant chooses, and in chains if need be (gotta throw in some bondage here).  The number of successful cults that stem from the same principle, though never publicized, speaks for both individuals and a community that does benefit from the authoritarian head who tolerates no dissension, no deviance from the One Right Way.

We're all adults?  I should hope so.  Of course, we're all equal, but I'll have to call in Orwell's observation that "some are more equal than others."  Do we really all decide for ourselves?  If that assumption were true the list of institutions listed above wouldn't exist.  Myself, I extoll the virtues of a disciplined, patriarchal society where "more equal" individuals who recognize in themselves the ability to handle the responsibility take on the burden of running that society, determining what's best for those who need a strong hand, a moral compass, in their lives.

To remain on point, in the world of my stories those who seek to be treated like garbage would be hauled out of those trash bags and sent to a re-education center for a few lessons on self-esteem and the innumerable benefits of being Told What To Do, in proper fascist fashion.  Discord would be dealt with immediately and in ways guaranteed to discourage any further pursuits along those lines.  Not that I would ever criticize someone else's lifestyle choice...

Despite the reference to Orwell readers please take note I only mention fascism in my mindless rant.  There is no intent to mention socialism in any form, so don't look for oblique references that might call Godwin's Law criteria into play.
  Jack Peacock
Title: Re: Updated link to join discord group for trash
Post by: [email protected] on December 14, 2022, 04:58:32 am
I have to agree with you there, on all of that Jack.
Most in the trash fet community are submissive me thinks. Such as myself, usually.
However, you may have hit the nail on the head here. Maybe I am trying to pull a few out of their trash bags for a bit of reeducation of self esteem, so that they may be able to provide a better community for all to submit to, including themselves.
I'd like to have seen all of the garbage submissions that have been wasted to unneeded, suppressed, censorship, due to so few with their own judgements of opinion and "leadership".
If the trash fet community wants to submit to "them" and be captive in the darkness of "their" black, trash bags, and miss out on so much more lovely garbage. So be it. Their choice? I don't mind being among few really put out to the curb here for trying to help others really understand and enjoy their garbage day that much more. I don't mind wasting myself for my mates, even if they disagree.