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Title: Daffy
Post by: GarbageBagDiaper on July 02, 2017, 05:49:54 PM
I enjoyed stories by Daffy  :) They were good :)
:)
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: Trash girl on July 02, 2017, 06:32:23 PM
yes i also enjoyed his stories 
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: AmyAmy on July 03, 2017, 01:55:53 PM
He's still around isn't he? Did something happen to him?

Useless suggestion about adding reviews removed in light of response...
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: Trash girl on July 03, 2017, 03:48:44 PM
he is not on this site anymore amyamy he deleted he's account and removed all his stories some tme ago now
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: AmyAmy on July 03, 2017, 05:00:40 PM
What? How did I miss that?
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: Trash girl on July 03, 2017, 06:52:30 PM
yeah i have no idea why he did it either
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: Gromet on July 04, 2017, 06:04:12 AM
He still pops into the forum/site though infrequent, but he has sent me an email.

If you want to leave a message for Daffy, then leave it here in this post - hopefully he'll see it.

Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: GarbageBagDiaper on July 04, 2017, 08:08:22 AM
Daffy, I always enjoyed your stories  :) Hope you are ok .
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: Trash girl on July 04, 2017, 04:36:58 PM
dear daffy if you read this know that we all miss you and hope you are doing well
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: PolytheneWrappedMe on July 05, 2017, 01:10:14 PM
Daffy was a friend of mine, just like he was a friend of yours.  Only I got to actually meet him through another forum site.

I enjoyed his stories too, and I miss him.  I think he inspired me and others to write.

Daffy alleged he had a major bust up with Gromet, during which Daffy threatened to ask for his stories to be removed, and Gromet took him at his word, and deleted them. Daffy was so upset, he deleted his account, as wiping all the stories also meant wiping the feedback from his fans. Daffy was heart broken.

He told me he had also become close to a girl on here, that broke his heart previously, and Gromet was the last straw.  He never told me her name. He told me of a few good friends Lobo, Tammy, and Emygarbage and I think he misses them.

I have asked him to make it up with Gromet, for we all lost out, but I think he believes there is no way back.
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: Jennifer52 on July 05, 2017, 03:00:32 PM
Daffy was awesome :( His trash stories were amazing. Really liked his giantess tales also.
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: Trash girl on July 05, 2017, 03:07:39 PM
polytheneWrappedMe i think it was me daffy was close too i regret hurting his feeling and wish to make it up to him someday
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: PolytheneWrappedMe on July 05, 2017, 03:12:06 PM
As I said, he never revealed her name, so I have no idea who she was. I cannot believe it was you. You seem so nice, and you are doing a grand job as Trashcan Mod, since he left us.  I recall you also wrote stories together.
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: Trash girl on July 05, 2017, 03:33:03 PM
true he did make some stories for me and im not sure either i just remember that daffy did like me and thanks for saying i do a good job as mod
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: 64Fordman on July 05, 2017, 03:55:09 PM
This conversation is getting uncomfortable. Reminiscing about Daffy's stories and contribution to the forum is fine, but rehashing personal events in his absence is unproductive gossip. Enough has been said about this topic.
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: Trash girl on July 05, 2017, 04:29:13 PM
i agree fordman we should just carry on remembering his good stories not his personal reasons for leaving 
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: AmyAmy on July 05, 2017, 05:05:29 PM
Why do normal users have green boxes, and 64Fordman has five gold stars, but Gromet has five red boxes?

Why sometimes stars and sometimes boxes?

I'd get it if stars were beyond boxes somehow, but Gromet's red boxes suggest otherwise.
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: 64Fordman on July 05, 2017, 06:36:15 PM
The red boxes identify the poster as an administrator, Lobo and MsBehavin also have red boxes. The gold stars are for moderators, except Trash girl who has trash cans.

Since Trash girl is not a global moderator, trash cans only appear on posts made in the Trash section. For regular members, the number of green squares indicates the level of activity.

1 square: fewer than 50 posts
2 squares: 50 to 100 posts
3 squares: more than 100 posts

I get the trash cans. The meaning of squares and stars? I have no idea.
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: Trash girl on July 06, 2017, 12:00:20 AM
thanks for making that clare i had no idea about it
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: ElectroPainLover on July 06, 2017, 02:43:49 AM
Quote from: 64Fordman on July 05, 2017, 06:36:15 PM
The red boxes identify the poster as an administrator, Lobo and MsBehavin also have red boxes. The gold stars are for moderators, except Trash girl who has trash cans.

Since Trash girl is not a global moderator, trash cans only appear on posts made in the Trash section. For regular members, the number of green squares indicates the level of activity.

1 square: fewer than 50 posts
2 squares: 50 to 100 posts
3 squares: more than 100 posts

I get the trash cans. The meaning of squares and stars? I have no idea.

There are also ranks which go along with the icons...

Newbie: 0 to 49 posts
Loosely Tied: 50 to 99 posts
Bound and Gagged: 100 to 249
Hogtied: 250 to 499
Bondage Master: 500+

Just to add my two cents.

Dana
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: AmyAmy on July 06, 2017, 10:28:34 AM
Starting to sound like that scene from Meaning of Life with the schoolboys and the coat pegs.
Ah, here it is (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIuC--xXMXI).
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: Gromet on July 06, 2017, 10:48:24 AM
That's about right with the pegs, stars & boxes, so make sure you get your chit signed!  ;D

Yes Daffy and I did have an issue as PolytheneWrappedMe has stated, but that remains between me and Daffy.

If Daffy wants to repost his stories he is most welcome to do so (I still have all of his stories as I do for all stories that are removed)
He can also rejoin the forum whenever he likes, I have no issue with him joining in on the forum, he'd be a welcome edition judging by the fan base he has here.

His last email to me did say that he checks the Plaza but he doesn't keep his bloody email account open long enough to reply!
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: GarbageBagDiaper on July 06, 2017, 11:35:57 AM
Thanks for the update about him :)
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: Trash girl on July 06, 2017, 01:37:02 PM
hmm interesting i hope everything turn out well between you two gromet
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: GarbageBagDiaper on July 06, 2017, 05:05:39 PM
Yeah, me too :)
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: Landfill_Racoon on September 11, 2017, 05:57:15 PM
im sad to know the real reason why he's gone ! :(
he miss mee as much as all of you guy's !.

daffy ! hope you will get back one day !:)
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: GarbageBagDiaper on September 13, 2017, 09:32:23 PM
I hope he does get back, too :)
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: Tom on September 19, 2017, 04:50:44 PM
Sticking my oar in unasked, I must confess I wasn't a fan of where Daffy was coming from, however as it takes all sorts to make a world, I could live with that, some would say it's my loss - I just didn't pick his stories to read. Others would likely differ - as we see here. It was just a matter of personal taste that I didn't want to go where he went, the ancient Romans claimed there was no accounting for taste and ultimately it's Gromet's Plaza, not Daffy's Duckpond.
Of course disagreement is not something one would wish, however I rather feel that if you're so dominant you wipe yourself out, then you've only got yourself to thank for the results. I'm pretty dominant myself, I've earned it the hard way, and do not take it kindly when someone without a track record wants to show me he's a bigger Richard than most, please be my guest, go right ahead and remove all doubt.
On a more positive note, I would remind you that the Wayback machine keeps some archive copies of much of the web, which makes such behaviour rather shortsighted.
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: 64Fordman on September 19, 2017, 11:00:33 PM
Hi Tom,

Welcome to the forum, your comments are appreciated and encouraged.

I can completely respect that you are not a fan of trash stories. They are not the largest part of the Plaza, but we do have a loyal membership.

The amount of ideas and material Daffy brought to that little corner of the Plaza in a short time was certainly impressive, and his willingness and ability to write special request stories for other members made him quite popular with his fans.

64Fordman
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: PolytheneWrappedMe on September 20, 2017, 10:12:42 AM
Whilst Daffy is remembered for his Trashcan stories, he also wrote in virtually every story category on the Plaza, to a greater or lesser extent. He wrote nearly as many Transformation stories, and he also "dabbled" (as ducks do, lol) with Machine, Giantess, Doll, Bound, Packaged, Buried, Devoured, etc.

In the Trashcan world, he introduced new themes like being shrunk or transformed, Rotopress and Molok.

In the Transformation world, he was one of the first writers to do person2object stories.

He wrote some 140 stories.

I will miss him.
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: AmyAmy on September 20, 2017, 02:21:11 PM
I've got nothing against Daffy, but this might be overhyping him a bit now...

I don't really agree that Daffy did a lot that was innovative. Some might not have seen those things before, but there are a tremendous number of stories out there, and an insane number of them were written before 2000, or even the mid nineties. There is very little new under the sun. To suggest he was "one of the first to do person2object" is a big claim. I don't think he was the first, even on the Plaza, though I imagine Gromet would be the one to ask about that.

I don't mean to put him down, simply not to put him up on a pedestal.

He wrote a lot of stories, yes I agree, but (I suspect) his entire body of work had a word count less than a single one of Rbbral's stories.

Anyone who wants to, please feel free to measure this, for all it would prove. Number of stories, quality of stories, innovation... Some will miss him more than others, that is for sure. He definitely has his fans.

Daffy has gone from the Plaza, for whatever reasons he has, but it's up to him. It's a decision he made. If he wants to return, he can.
If he wants to come back with some awesome stories that make us rethink everything we ever thought we knew about kinks, he can.

What I have noticed is that the trash enthusiasts are an active bunch on the forums. Does that mean that good trash stories are still appearing here? I suspect it may.
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: PolytheneWrappedMe on September 20, 2017, 05:05:13 PM
This is not a competition, Amy.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, even if they differ from your own.

You are entitled to yours, as I am to mine.

Let's treat each other with respect, please.


Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: Lobo De la Sombra on September 21, 2017, 07:04:57 AM
Personally, I have no interest in trashcan stories.  Not that I'm against the concept, I simply have no interest there.  That being said, I also have nothing against Daffy.  In fact, I have about five and a half pages of PM's from him, stretching from December of 2015 for about a year, and probably at least that many messages to him.  I wasn't happy when he left, but that was his choice.  In the future, whether he decides to come back or to stay away, that will also be his choice.  From our private talks, he knows my opinion of him, so I won't say anything about that here.  What I will say is, if he does decide to come back, there will be a place for him, just as there is a place here for anyone who enjoys any of our varied areas of interest.  Never forget, people, that you are all entitled to voice your thoughts and opinions, so long as you do it in a way that respects the rules of this forum.  At the same time, never forget that there are real, live people on the other side of your screen, with thoughts, opinions and feelings of their own.  Please try to respect them, just as you would want them to respect yours.
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: AmyAmy on September 21, 2017, 03:45:59 PM
PolytheneWrappedMe, I'm so sorry.

I definitely didn't mean to be disrespectful. I certainly didn't mean to give the impression I have anything against you, or Daffy, or his stories.
Honestly, I didn't think I'd done those things, but now I'm second guessing myself.

Clearly, I must have upset you, and I feel awful about it.


I don't mean to come across negative. So if it seemed a bit troubling, just tell me honestly what I did wrong, so I can try and be better in the future. There's no need to skirt around it, if you need to reprimand me, or tell me I've gone too far, or said something confronting, or that you think I'm an opinionated idiot, there's no need at all to trouble everyone on the forum with it, you can always PM me.


Of course it's not a matter of opinion that shrinking, growth, and person to object are devices that have been in stories for hundreds of years, if not thousands.


PolytheneWrappedMe, I guess if Daffy was the one who introduced you to those ideas, he'll always have a special place in your heart as a writer. And maybe it was a bit harsh of me to suggest you were putting him on a pedestal. Likely, you were simply trying to raise awareness of his work so that others can enjoy it the way you have. But that's just a guess, maybe I'm way off?

Well either way, I regret the pedestal comment. I just wanted to say that I like Daffy, while keeping it in perspective.


I agree, it is only opinion that the number of stories a person has written has no special bearing on anything. It doesn't speak to how powerful they are, or the impact they have on others, which I think are the things that matter. Emily Bronte only published one book, but it made quite an impact.


As I said, Daffy certainly has his fans, but let's be optimistic about this, there are lots more stories appearing on the Plaza, and you never know when there will be one as good, or even better, than those Daffy stories that have gone away. And who knows? Maybe those Daffy stories may return one day. Or not. But if they don't, you still got to read them, and love them. You'll always have them with you, in a way.

And if they're not destined to return here, you could always ask him to repost them somewhere else.
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: PolytheneWrappedMe on September 21, 2017, 06:42:15 PM
Thank you Lobo for your words of support.
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: PolytheneWrappedMe on September 21, 2017, 06:54:15 PM
Thank you Amy for saying sorry.

It has not tarnished your image, on the contrary, being kind enough to say sorry, says much about your kind and decent character.

I did not claim Daffy was the first to write person2object transformation stories here. I said "one of the first" (and that is on the Plaza, not elsewhere).  I said "one of the first" hoping not to offend, in case I missed the story that was actually the first. Up to then, the Transformation section seemed as though it was (almost ?) exclusively about sex change: m2f, and f2m. The idea of becoming an object appealed to me, as I view objectification as the most extreme submissive act. A slave can disobey, an object has no choice.

Story length is subjective. I know readers who have shorter attention spans and like stories to get to the point, and other readers who prefer a longer build up. Short or long stories are neither good or bad, just cater for different tastes and needs.

Certainly in the Trashcan world he introduced lots of new stuff. But he wrote in several genres. He also mixed genres as his stories often contained elements from different sections.

No harm done.
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: Tom on November 06, 2017, 03:15:47 AM
It must be said that there were far more times when I could no longer stomach his writing and stopped reading than when I found it taking me somewhere I was prepared to go to, to the point where I routinely exercised my choice not to read his work, the gain wasn't worth the pain, I'm simply not that masochistic. That might be seen as a personal choice, however as push did come to shove, I rather thank Gromet for his decisiveness. If Elmer Fudd finally shot the Duck, I'm not entirely sorry, therefore: perhaps put it down to a form of masochism on Daffy's part, having got rather too large for his boots.
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: PolytheneWrappedMe on November 06, 2017, 11:25:57 AM
I think it is a major achievement for an author to provoke such a violent response years after he has disappeared.

He clearly GOT UNDER YOUR SKIN and RATTLED YOUR CAGE.

And you did not even like reading his stories. Wow !

Authors don't want to be ignored. All authors have fans and critics. You cannot put things in the public domain and not get a fair share of both.

But critics who do not bother to write stories themselves have little to grouse about. If you want better stories, write your own !   Rather than throw rocks at someone else who has bothered to get off his arse and write 150 stories in a dozen different genres.

I also note you have not read Gromet's comments. Gromet says a) he did not want Daffy to go, and b) he would welcome Daffy back (if only he had Daffy's current email address).

So carry on Tom. Maybe Daffy can live on forever, if we remember him so passionately.

Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: Asphyx on November 06, 2017, 11:57:07 PM
God almighty!!! He doesn't want to be here. Get over it. What next? Maybe make him a saint?
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: Tom on November 07, 2017, 06:05:31 AM
I'd like not to be antagonistic here, however as you don't know me, PWM, I don't see how you can say he got under my skin: I thought I'd made it clear that given a choice of taking or leaving him, I left him strictly alone.
My artistic medium is vocal - I'm a top backing singer, I've worked on stage with people like Goldie, Ariella Grande, Shlomo, David Byrne, so I don't see why I should have to publish here as a prerequisite to being to express an opinion, I'm afraid, people who don't sing come to hear me. I've had applause in my own right, it's out there on the web, leading the backing group doing the blow-off section of David's Atomic Bomb recording as I was the only performer from the backing group with experience of the HiLife style we were working in, which is why I got to frontline that choir of 180 singers doing every whit as important a section of work as Money Mark and the others. There are some who want me to go solo myself: having experience of the vocal profession which verges on the other scandals in film and theatre (I had to sort out the results of the Britten paedophilia scandal as an adolescent, laying the foundations of a choir which has produced a lot of pro vocalists, Florence Welch, Pixie Lott, Ed Simons among them), I chose not to, I perform for my pleasure as a resident vocalist at a major UK public venue and for not other peoples' wealth. I don't just sing, I mentor, and have written music too. That's what gives me a right to criticise on the terms you set.
I wasn't criticising his style, I was criticising his subjects, which I'm entitled to do as a member of his audience. He didn't address a void, he addressed people, readers here, and those people are therefore entitled to express an opinion of what they invest their time in. I simply said I reached the point where I found his work more often than not unpleasant in theme and so chose not to waste any more time on it: that I should say so says more about my appreciation of the Forum than about my disdain of him. I don't rap because I don't like the gang environment, "dissing hos" is exactly the kind of hate zone I dislike in Daffy's approach too, the closest I come is acappella beatboxing, to show the crossover: I was raised in an area, the edge of Brixton, where that was part of the culture, one I opposed and walked away from. I don't disagree with your comments on Gromet's right to pick and chose who he allows here, however, it's his site: I still wouldn't wish to read Daffy. Life's like that, some things are pleasant, some less so, we have the right to choose where we can.
If you can't stand criticism of your work, don't put it in the public domain. This is an open access site, so it is in the public domain: there are more private sites. Equally, you're as much entitled to a different opinion, I'm not criticising that, I'm defending my right to my own, as you crossed the line in trying to diss me.
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: PolytheneWrappedMe on November 07, 2017, 11:39:38 AM
Ummmmm.  Saint Daffy.  Has quite a ring to it.  LOL.

Yes, everyone is entitled to voice an opinion. Albeit negative feedback should still be respectful.

I don't understand why you feel compelled to write at such length, when the easy option is to chose not to read it.

There are several genres here which don't float my boat, but I don't write War And Peace saying how this author is crap and that one is rubbish. I simply don't read the stories.

Just because one person hates something or likes something, does not mean we all do. We are all different.
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: Tom on November 07, 2017, 10:47:40 PM
Yes, I agree, thank you. I's a very good thing we are different, and I don't read them, as I said. However, silence implies accord when I dissent. I don't particularly care to analyze why I don't, which does go some way in that direction, it's slightly more than simple distaste, I feel he goes to places which transgress some of my absolute boundaries, the points at which I stop. Some people have even tighter norms, and they shift over time: perhaps it's because we've established a degree of liberality and the next generation are building off that. However, I also believe there are points where we should stop under any and all conditions: these are the points at which the moderators have to intervene. Another approach is to say, when it stops being fun and loving, stop. The safety word principle, in effect: fair enough, it's fiction, however even fiction drives reality.
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: 64Fordman on November 08, 2017, 04:24:39 AM
The moderator is intervening, this conversation has gone on long enough.
Title: Re: Daffy
Post by: Gromet on November 09, 2017, 08:34:59 AM
Totally agree, time to move on from St Daffy. As I have with the Plaza.

Any more topics about Daffy Duck will be deleted (or trashed)  ::)