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You can view the story here on the plaza:
http://www.grometsplaza.net/eroticstories/storieslr/playingchauffer.html
MF; F/m; FM/m; date; rom; chast; lock; cuckold; cons; X
Part 2: My Husband Baits His Own Trap
http://www.grometsplaza.net/eroticstories/storieslr/playingchauffer2.html
MF; F/m; MF/m; dance; tease; rom; chast; lock; contract; cuckold; erotic; oral; denial; mast; climax; cons; X
Part 3: First Date
http://www.grometsplaza.net/eroticstories/storieslr/playingchauffer3.html
F/m; MF/m; D/s; cuckold; chast; denial; date; dance; dinner; kiss; tease; rom; erotic; jealousy; femdom; cons; X
Part 4: The Sequel
http://www.grometsplaza.net/eroticstories/storieslr/playingchauffer4.html
M/f; M/mf; cuckold; chast; denial; date; hotel; room; shower; naked; tease; torment; sex; climax; cons; X
Part 5: Passionate Collateral Damage
http://www.grometsplaza.net/eroticstories/storieslr/playingchauffer5.html
M/f; M/mf; cuckold; date; hotel; room; naked; shower; tub; key; chast; denial; discovery; sex; climax; cons; X
Part 6: Meeting the Barbarian
http://www.grometsplaza.net/eroticstories/storieslr/playingchauffer6.html
M/f; M/mf; cuckold; key; chast; date; hotel; room; strip; force; bond; belt; breast; sex; climax; cons; X
Part 7: New Deal
http://www.grometsplaza.net/eroticstories/storieslr/playingchauffer7.html
M/f; hotel; naked; bond; belt; sex; oral; climax; rom; Mf/m; cuckold; key; chastity; cheat; cons; X
Part 8: Conclusion
http://grometsplaza.net/eroticstories/storieslr/playingchauffer8.html
M/f; belt; rom; MF/m; cuckold; key; chast; cheat; cons; X
Please feel free to leave your kind comments & feedback here about this story.
Thanks ;)
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Jackie:
Great story!
I would say, there is an interest! I do hope that you continue with it!
Ron
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Thank you Ron. I am rewriting part one still again, (the part I posted first being part two I guess), so if all goes well there should be a both prequel, and a sequel. On the old forum Lobo suggested I could start with a story's conclusion and tell it backwards, and I thought that sounded like a fun challenge, this perhaps halfway there as I started in the middle so the introduction chapter might not be too boring.
Thank you again for your kind words of motivation, Jackie.
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The original story has long struck in my mind, I find myself thinking back to it and remembering it at random, in a way that often does not happen. I am still not quite sure what it is about the story that so struck me, but I was very happy to see you returning to this and expanding it.
Knowing where things were going helped, since with the original, it is about the surprise, the twist at the end, and everything slowly builds towards this, but you need to get there for everything to fit together and fall into place.
I REALLY enjoyed the emotions, feelings, and sense of something coming in this prequel. The emotional weight everything has, the caution, the sense of testing and moving slowly, it makes everything feel so real and important. This is no random one night stand for a single woman that we are considering, this is changing and altering the very bedrock of a happy and settled marriage, and it is treated as such.
I also like the awareness that fantasy and reality are very different, the gap, and the fact that sometimes this gulf simply cannot be safely crossed. Just because the husband likes the fantasy does not mean that he will want, or enjoy, the reality. The contract, and making him talk to and explain the situation to the other man are both very clear ways of making sure he is involved with the process, and aware of what is going on here.
Are you planning a second prequel? You have left us hanging on the nature of the picture that is being painted. I can guess what was said, and the picture it paints, but I am curious, and interested in seeing how the emotions move and develop between now and the night in the hotel.
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Thank you Feline. I have had the story in my head for quite some time, but telling it from the beginning got boring to me, so after several rewrites I decided to start from the middle. I know it's an odd way to do things, but the picture the introduction (the part in the middle I originally sent to Grommet) paints is quite erotic to my mind, a how the hell did we get here kind of moment, or even a be careful what you wish for one.
It's really just a ride into the city for an overnight date, (on first appearance) but the details revealed at the end of that intro tell us that it's anything but.
I find the giving of power as erotic as the taking control part, both sides of the same coin as it were, and in the first prequel we learn that neither Jack nor myself (the narrator) are dominate souls, although experiencing Jack's fantasy in the flesh forces him to the bottom of the dog pile by his own desires. He wanted this, or at least the fantasy part of it that he associates with getting off, a true cause and effect conditioning of his kinky and submissive mind... Ring the bell and the dog drools for his food, cuckold the submissive husband and he pops off on command with little effort.
Is Jack like this because he realizes deep down that his wife can do better, or just impossibly kinky like the rest of us? The "ship without a captain" part I think explains what is going on here best, nature abhors a vacuum, and somebody has to lead, strong confident and sucessful Jim auditioning for that role in more than one way on these dates.
I had intended to tell the prequel in one chapter, but that was impossible, so there will be another, and then the sequel after that if all goes well. I am ever mindful of my stories getting impossibly long and I am trying to keep this one from that fate if I can.
Thank you again for your thoughtful comments, Jackie.
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Having just re-read both parts of this story, I am picking out, picking up on some of the more subtle details of the power dynamic that I didn't really catch the first time through. Knowing now the relationship between these three, things are clearer, things make more sense, and I am more aware of the hints of what might be coming in what you are showing us :)
Yes, the original part is "short and simple", but full of emotion, and it turns very nicely at the end, as we finally see what is going on here.
On a re-read two things really stand out for me. Firstly, just how firmly yet politely (towards Jackie anyway) Jim is, once he is clear on what is suggested and intended here. There is no sense of hesitation, of holding back, no doubts or second thoughts. He really is acting like a dominant perfect gentleman, taking where he should take, leading when expected, yet not demanding, and certainly never apologising. A rare set of behaviours from what I have seen of the world, but undeniably powerful and appealing!
The changes in Jackie are really striking, so hesitant, unsure, timid even at first. Understandable given the history of mixed signals from Jack, a rational and sensible approach to keeping her marriage happy and settled. Yet as she settles into this new path, the sternness and confidence that are shining through. I suspect the clear signs of Jim's desire and intentions are working wonders here :)
I am really looking forward to more of this story, to more of these wonderful emotions and moments :)
As for longer stories, lets be fair, I do go out of my way to encourage your summer of dares story to grow and grow! I am getting there soon, I am just pacing myself, but I am eager to see what you have for me next :)
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To me it's like the kid in grammar school getting a free hall pass to roam where she wills without consequence while her peers (in this case her husband) is duty bound to follow the rules she is no longer obligated to follow. If she comes back to class at all her classmates might ask quietly what she did, they either resenting her extra freedom, or vicariously experiencing it through her and the tales of her exploits.
Jim is powerful and commanding, Jackie drawn to this by instinct, most especially with her signed "hall pass" giving her a guilt free vacation from her marriage vows. Jack at some point is going to realize what he has given up, but by then it might be far too late to reclaim what he wants back, if that's even possible.
He also could end up discovering that his new place in Jim's and Jackie's life is the more proper one, he discovering a hidden servitude of his own and enjoying his new life.
Thank you again for your thoughts, Jackie.
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Wow, I am quite blown away by part 3, the second part of the prequel. This started out with such a simple yet wicked idea. It developed so much more depth and interest when you showed us how it started, how it was born, but here, this part, you have really added in a massive amount of emotional depth, complexity and interest!
Watching the wife explore her own feelings here, and how these are shaped and altered by her understanding of her husbands wishes and desires is amazing. Watching her go from reluctant to driving forward with real passion, desire and urgency... this is a total turn around, a complete change of nature, yet it is made to feel reasonable and sensible, since each step is a reasonable step.
This did not come at first from her, it came, completely and fully, from her husband to start with. He is the source and the drive behind this for so long. Even now, even as his wife and Jim are stepping forward to take control of the speed and details of this journey, it is still very much the direction that he wanted, that he chose and worked so hard to bring into being.
One of the things that stands out the strongest for me is the body language, the clearly submissive nature and response that Jack is showing to both Jim and to his wife. Being so willing to accept orders, even things that sound like mere suggestions and treat them as clear orders.
The moments of rebellion feel so real and apt. No matter how much he wants the fantasy, the process of converting this fantasy into a living, breathing reality is going to be a shock for Jack, it is going to bring thoughts and feelings that he never anticipated to the surface, and he is not going to react how he expected, since he never fully anticipated this world and this reality.
Again it is the details that speak so loudly here. Managing to have an orgasm being part of the trigger for standing up to his wife so after the date. Then the punishment, the change of status, and moving one step at a time towards bringing Jim into the house as the dominant in the house, relegating Jack to a new, and far more subservient role.
This is not overt, yet the power is very real and clear. The journey these characters have already been on, and the clear hints of what more is to come...
By the end, it is the rule of 3 dates before making love is ever a possibility, combined with how the teasing and hints are being tested that says so much. Jim is being a perfect gentleman towards the wife, a dominant, forceful, take what he wants gentleman, but still a deeply respectful and polite gentleman. The sort of strong and self assured man that seems so rare, but this confidence and strength is so powerful, it is no wonder that things are moving forwards so smoothly when this is the prize the wife is now working towards and focussed on :)
I do hope you have another part or three of this planned, since there is so much I still want to see and learn about this wonderful story and where it is going :)
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Thank you so much Feline. It has taken me some time to write this, at the expense of some of my other projects I'm afraid, but I will get back to those as well.
Jack's new role comes with a pretty steep price for some, but possibly not so bad for one with his submissive mind and tendencies. He is breaking a bad habit or two while on his caged vacation from manliness, mainly his self entertainment at the cost of more traditional lovemaking that has turned his cuckolding fantasy into a self perpetuating reality.
If it takes twenty one days on average to break a physical addiction, (I know this is an oversimplification), Jack should be getting over the bulk of his cause and effect desires to self entertain right about when his wife and Jim are doing it for real, she quite understandably looking to have some of what she has been missing out on in life. Jack will eventually replace these with more traditional desires as those are hardwired into us, but this complex situation isn't happening in a vacuum, Jim is now there to rush in to take his place.
The dates the narrator and Jim have gone on so far have reminded her of what she is missing out on physically, those passions and desires also hard wired into our minds and not subject to the twenty one day rule as they pertain to the survival of mankind in general. Breeding to me is a survival instinct, as is choosing the most desirable partner with which to share ones genes, we are simply driven to do this to perpetuate the species.
The narrator has apparently made a new internal calculation as to who should be able to share her bed, and to who shouldn't, even though such actions might not actually produce an heir. Perhaps it's a version of fight or flight, but Jack finds himself potentially in the way of what the narrator needs at a very base and instinctive level, a foolishly dangerous place to be with a woman.
She is in turn is working on her own twenty one day cycle of breaking a dependency, in her case it's from her neutered husband, he now auditioning as their (the narrator's and Jim's) full time servant, whether he suspects this is a forever thing or not. It may have started out as Jack's fantasy, but the reality could end up being like nothing he could have imagined, as you pointed out.
Jim is the one constant here, and for Jack to even casually entertain getting in the way of what he now sees as his, (not that Jack's body language even hints at this) would be pure folly. Both "men" know this, I have seen this personally more than once, it's like a dog pack kind of thing, a "she's mine now, don't even think about it" kind of message.
All three are still apparently working toward the goal of the narrator and Jim becoming lovers, although Jack at some point soon may have serious second thoughts, if he already doesn't. How does he possibly voice those though? Certainly not in Jim's commanding presence, the two have both a verbal and non verbal understanding. I could imagine that conversation, "Did we not give you everything you specifically asked for, and then some?"
I suspect any further resistance will be of the passive resistance variety, doing chores and following orders so poorly so as to draw attention, not realizing that every correction the new couple has had to issue has lead to a further lessening of his status.
Jack owns his new life, he's smart enough to eventually realize this, the only question is if he will embrace it, or merely endure it.
Thanks again for your thoughtful words, Jackie.
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As I read through part 4 a couple of different thoughts were at work in my mind. At first the "hints", if that is the right word, more the blatant clues, that all has not been well and proper in this marriage, and that the love making, such as there was any, was distinctly unsatisfying, were irritating me.
Specifically, I kept coming round to the thought and feeling that the husband, Jack, seems to have been intent upon his own dreams and fantasies for so long, that no matter how tender and caring he might be, he has long since given up all pursuit of his wife's pleasures. I don't think that the size of his penis should be a factor here, or even his clearly submissive nature. There are other ways to please and pleasure a woman, and finding out what SHE wants, and working to satisfy it, is to me, a fundamental duty for BOTH parties in a relationship.
In this sense, and from this perspective, I find this part has made me more comfortable and happier with events, and the way they are going, than I was already, and I was already quite happy with things. By selfishly pursuing his own cuckolded fantasy so avidly, Jack has finally managed to really satisfy and provide his wife with the strong, dominant and demanding man that she is clearly eager for, missing out on, and massively attracted to.
Watching the emotional ups and downs, the second guessing, the wondering, the plans and thoughts about giving the appearance but not the reality of an affair, and finally the reality of the situation, the lust, the power, and the long sexual denial all coming together and working together to send her so fully and completely into Jim's arms... this is powerful, sexy and moving!
Clearly there is a very strong submissive streak at work here, but in a completely different sense to Jack's. Also, as the acceptance of the affair, of the new man in her life grows, so does the realisation and acceptance of the new, far more passive and submissive role for her husband. Things have moved a long way here, a lot has happened, and not always according to plan :)
The final lines puzzle me though, what does she now know? What is Jim talking about? So far the only thought that really comes to mind here is that Jim is thinking in terms of this being a one off experiment, a fling, a fantasy fulfilled, as the bored wife tries out a different man for the thrill of it, before returning to her settled and happy marriage.
We know, from seeing inside her head and her world that this is not what is going on at all, but perhaps this is a reasonable conclusion for Jim to reach, and a sensible and realistic point to work from. It keeps him grounded, his feelings more under control, and it stops him from pushing or pressing to hard into a friends marriage. He has taken a hell of a lot of advantage so far, but perhaps only as much as he was asked in helping them act out this single fantasy fulfilment moment.
So I await with interest and eagerness, finding out what the thinking is here, and what Jim is talking about and thinking about.
On a separate front, perhaps I have spent to many years immersed in and practising kink in various wicked and evil forms, but I really do find the view that a big penis is an end and goal in its self. Now to be fair you made it clear there is a lot more at work here, but really, there are SO many other ways to give, and to experience pleasure... people, male and female, just need to experiment more and communicate more, so they express their desires and tastes. How else can these be fulfilled?
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I think Jim knows, or at least suspects that he "ruins" perfectly good women, whether that is because he is a large man, or that he projects such dominate confidence both in and out of bed, the result is the same. It goes with the cliché, "A wife ruined for life by a much bigger and better man", those thoughts embedded in the narrator's mind, she expecting to be "ruined" by this powerful man just as her college girlfriends were "ruined" for a time by theirs.
I think at the same time that one could easily say that a man's proportions are more important to men in general, (popular porn not withstanding), but such extraordinary endowments couldn't help but to boost a man's confidence, and make him more respected and commanding in the presence of other, "lesser" men. An apparent business advantage? Certainly, but not ideally suited to desperately hooking up for one night stands unless the woman in question were extraordinary herself, and a rather shallow way for an approaching middle aged man with a good career to behave. Such behavior would suggest to the man's business associates the he in fact didn't have it all going on, and therefore he wasn't one to follow and wish to emulate, just as his divorce might should he not find a replacement quickly.
Jim might have suspected that the narrator wanted a once and done fling to take that little experience off of her bucket list, he going well out of his way though with unexpected patience to ensure she would want more, and more again of what he could uniquely offer. Such was not only wise for the moment, but a good long term strategy if he wanted to keep the narrator after this little experiment in infidelity had run it's course, as he logically must.
The narrator represents a shortcut to his next adventure in monogamy, (if she doesn't bolt and immediately demand to be taken home as he fears she might), she already known as a woman who isn't after his wealth, and happily submissive, not to mention wickedly minded and pleasant to look at. She is uniquely perfect for him except for a single detail, Jack has to go, or more precisely he has to be neutered and demoted to insignificance and not permitted to go.
Jim knows he is walking a fine line here, and while he may want to spend the rest of his life with the stunning and open minded narrator, he must convince her NOT to dump her present husband. If she remains technically married to him there can be no costly second marriage to him, nor a disgruntled ex-husband that must be paid off for his "pain and suffering" over their infidelity, not to mention the potential scandal.
So far Jack seems to be falling into this well thought out trap all by himself, but he had placed himself there of his own accord, Jim merely the opportunistic man that must make sure he stays there if he can manage it with the narrator as a coconspirator. In all fairness, if Jack aspired to "self enslave" it might as well be to a dominate man like Jim who not only knows how to make the most of such things, but will take very good care of his wife.
Thank you again Feline for your thought provoking words, I intend this to be a kinky adventure for all three, Jackie.
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More playing chauffer, happiness! So, first up, re-read the first 4 parts, to properly refresh my memory of the fun and games at work here :)
Ah, the teasing cliff hanger at the end of part 4, and now we find out what that was all about... *smirk* "ruin perfectly good women", well yes, but in more than one way! I must say, coming back to this, re-reading it, seeing the power and dominance of him, the taking and owning, and how this blows the woman away... it is incredibly sexy and erotic, and also, I am left with the very clear and strong feeling that the dominance, force and power are even more important than his physical attributes, not that this is intended to reduce their importance at all.
After all, feeling and being desired is so VERY important, and this is well beyond merely pointing out that he finds her attractive, this is well into "I MUST have you NOW" territory, but also a clear sense of wariness, of caution in the morning after. For all his barbarian charms, this is a man who is well aware of subtle, of power, and of the reality not being the same as the theory or fantasy.
*ah* yes, suddenly the comment about ruining a woman, and his ex wife, who was less than wonderful to him, takes on a whole new light. I had not really considered this angle, but despite his confidence and directness in taking this woman, Jim still needs to be reassured, settled, and to be shown clearly where things now sit and stand. This is not the dark ages, and his partners thoughts and feelings clearly matter immensely to him, as they should :)
Again, I am reminded of the cuckholded husband, and the thought that he was more interested, in a lot of ways, in what he wanted, than what his wife wanted. Quite the contrast to Jim, who seems to have a far more balanced approach to what he and his woman want in the relationship :)
Ah, and now you / her are voicing similar thoughts and exploring them. Yes, slave like worship, that fits very well with what you have shown us of their marriage and "mismatched" relationship.
A passing thought, such a powerful and demanding man is going to work very well with a more sexually submissive woman, but is going to run into a lot of problems with another dominant in bed, and thinking back to the comments and hints, it suggests that Sheila was such a personality, and this will have fed into Jim's mixed feelings on his nature and effect on women.
Ah, breakfast in bed, and Jim is seeing and understanding that he has found the submissive and trusting woman to his dominant and exploring personality, a wonderful and magical fit when you can find it!
The key and the anklet, two keys... oh my! I pause for a moment to think. From the phrasing, the way Jim talked about the chastity device without knowing its name suggests the two keys comment is instead about padlocks in general, but still, it is a surprisingly accurate comment, and does suggest that things are not quite progressing as they should be, at least on one front!
Ooh, a delightful hint of a twist and wickedness to come!
What is Jim plotting? "look stunning on you"? Now I am confused, since my first instinct is that one of the two keys is to be destroyed in front of the lying husband. But perhaps instead just transformed into jewelry, embedded in resin? Something like that? It seems most fitting and reasonable, especially after all of the time and effort spent getting to this point, but I am most curious to see what this thought is, what the idea is.
Ah, the roller coaster of her emotions is well and truly in full motion and action! I am fairly certain, if I am reading this right, this is not the sort of trust and journey that Jim was talking about, but still, this transformation of the key is very much the sort of moment that this journey of exploration will be made of!
An amazing story, and I am fairly sure that once she has caught her breath she won't need any more time to think about this, since there is still a second key out there... *evil laughter*
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Thank you Feline. I don't think Jim and Shelia were any better a match than Jack and the narrator were, but the solution to at least half of that little problem is obvious to Jim, and well within his grasp.
Shelia is a powerful force of nature in her own right, and she'll be fine as she can take care of herself, but if she should ever reappear in this story I could imagine her having a little fun with either of the submissives. I could see her either borrowing Jack for a time to press him into some form of domestic servitude at her new place, or even accidentally discovering the narrator's submissive tendencies and taking full advantage for a little retribution of her own for some perceived man stealing injustice...
I think Jim is likely to introduce a whole new world of safe word bound submission, gradually, allowing the narrator to explore her kink more fully while Jim explores her limits. Such might start simply with bathrobe sashes and belts while still in the hotel room to gauge her reaction, (improvised forms of restraint in the real world one of my all time favorites).
I think all three are about to take a one way trip under the dominate command of Jim, the destination at this point up for grabs, and of course if all three will be making the whole "trip" together or not. Jack is a necessary liability at this point, but should the day come when he is no longer useful Jim might have to have a heart to heart with him to explain how his vision of the future will be, and not the submissive cuckold fantasy version that Jack had wished to try out, (he naively thinking that things could possibly go back to the way they were at the end of the contract).
Thank you for your thought provoking words, and please let me know your thoughts on this stories direction, Jackie.
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Only just found this, so a slower reply than this deserves.
I have tried sleeping on this, since you are asking some big and interesting questions here. My gut instinct here, which is backed up by what I see and understand of the narrators nature, is rooted in ethics, and a rather crude parallel.
For a long time, even as she was pushed towards a more dominant position, the narrator came across as someone who had their own sense of right and wrong, and stuck firmly to it. She was prepared, even after all of the preparation and work up, to fake her encounter with Jim, to save and look after her submissive husband. She has also, to my mind, has a sense of "looking after" Jim about her, she has never come across as just using Jim, or wanting to ignore or be insensitive to his feelings and requirements in all of this.
So what of Jack? He is clearly no long the "man of the house", but how far to take this concept? I find myself thinking of him more in terms of a family pet than anything else, he is around, there is fondness towards him, but he needs to know and remember his place in the situation, he should sometimes be seen, but not heard. His views no longer matter, he brought this situation upon himself, but then lied about the details, about the number of keys, his words and actions in setting this in motion talk of true commitment, but he is trying to have it both ways. That simply won't work.
Having said this, the parallel with a family pet is wrong, since he is also a maid, a useful and often used domestic servant. As the narrator starts to take on her new role of "sex toy", and Jim takes on the role of running the house, someone has to do all of the boring domestic jobs to keep things ticking along nicely. Jack seems ideal for this, but more than this, look at the outfits, taking the narrator out shopping for sexy new underwear, the glass shower in the hotel, there is an exhibitionist streak at work here. Jack the locked up and powerless "ex" is a perfect witness for all of the wicked actions. Who better to tease and torment with the visions of his sexy wife, presented to best possible effect, tied up, helpless, available, ready and willing, if only he was free to take advantage of her...
As for the narrator and the safe word bondage, I see things going a little more quickly, based on what happened in the hotel. Look at how Jim stepped into the shower, how he took control and increased the pace of things. Look at him in the jewellery shop, as his firm lead keeps on being rewarded with a happy, compliant and willing woman, he will tend to move at the pace she permits, pushing gently to explore his "long unfulfilled" dominant desires...
Yes, "long unfulfilled" seems right. I just don't see such a firebrand of a woman as Shelia seems to have been playing the willing sub to Jim, so he has had the urges, the desires and the personality to take charge and enforce his will on someone who enjoys this and wants it. He has no problem bending Jack to his will, so as he finds his firm approach being welcomed by the narrator, I can see him exploring this world for both of them at once :)
Shelia reappearing and throwing sparks and fun into the situation, that is a delightful idea! I have the mental image of her as strong, fiery, and probably rather impulsive, an excellent contract to careful, thoughtful and respectfully dominant Jim :)
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Yay for part 6. This follows on from part 5 seamlessly, which is good, but also meant that I needed to go back and re-read the last part of part 5 to refresh my memory of exactly how we left things.
I am a little surprised, more than a little surprised really, at the SEETHING anger I see here! Clearly Jim was not expecting quite such a firm and immediate decision, but thinking about this, considering how much time and energy her husband put into getting this entire situation up and running, his dedication and devotion to the idea, seeing the trust destroyed at such a basic level, especially just hours after she has finally given herself willingly and happily to Jim, it is something of a perfect storm!
The hearts and dates plan for encasing the key appeals to my romantic nature, but I can see that this isn't really what we are going to be looking for here. But what is it that she wants though? I am guessing the design goes some way towards showing the strength of her views at the betrayal of trust here, and its clearly unique, but what is it? I am all curious now :)
Watching them leave the jewellers, again there is the strong feeling that for this wife to really feel wanted, happy and settled, she needs and wants a strong man who will both respect her, but also firmly take the lead as and when it is appropriate, something her husband simply never did, and will never do.
*giggles* I do like the image of her as a trophy that he has competed for and won, and yes, rather one sided indeed! But if he is the "gentleman" at heart that I have come to think of him as, then he is going to take the fact that this is a married woman on his arm very seriously, and it is going to add a great deal to the weight, importance and success of winning her and having her on his arm :)
OOOh, that is so romantic, and so kinky all at the same time! A lovely and loving foot rub in a romantic restaurant, in a private corner, just what she needs after walking so far in those heels. Jim is proving he is a gentleman, showing appreciation for what she is doing, in dressing and looking like she does for him, thanking her for showing off like this, by helping to look after her.
At the same time, making her sit on her hands, he is controlling her and the situation, and exerting this delightful control over her body and mind again! Wicked, and I love it :)
Safe words?! Oh my, this is getting better by the moment!
Then a sudden change of pace, the world view is changed, shocked and altered, new information about the dynamics, there is no safe word between wife and husband, instead their is a contract. This is a more complex situation, but again, it does show how much of a gentleman, how sensible and understanding Jim is being, and it also does a good job of explaining where and how he learned these complex and valuable people skills :)
Hard to say your safe word with a ... - could this be a gag? But surely not?! Oh, so shocking and wicked?! *giggles*
At this point, falling in love with Jim seems both reasonable and natural to me. Then again, I understand that passions and emotions run VERY hot indeed in these situations, when done right, and this is clearly being done right!
Back to the hotel, and this is so HOT, so well described, and so full of passion! Also, talk about a boost for the ego, getting someone so very controlled and in charge of themselves as Jim to go wild and let go like this! :)
Ah, the ending, that melts my heart! Yes, a really good story, a passionate experience, and as he comes back down, Jim is once more the gentleman, worried and concerned for how he has treated this woman, his lady, concerned that the heat of passion that was unleashed was to much, went to far, was the wrong thing. No wonder he feels and worries this, is concerned for the damage he may have done in his passion... so hearing MORE with such passion... just about the best possible response :)
I do hope that more of this story is in the works, I so want to read more of this :)
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Thank you Feline, your feedback forces me to write better.
Quite possibly Jim can now be the man he truly was made to be for the first time in his life, with but one lesser man theoretically in the way. Disposing of this competitor is as natural as a large corporation buying up a small business that is trying to compete with it, stripping out the parts it wants and discarding the rest, something that happens in business all the time.
I think Jim has at least two options for this; own and ruthlessly dominate Jack once he moves into the house and the master bedroom, or perhaps have him quit his job and send him off to serve Shelia for a time as a gift to her, (ostensibly to help her out in her new place while becoming properly and submissively trained), but in reality just because he can, all while removing the freedom of an earned income for Jack.
Ones own money equals a certain amount of freedom, and without a salary Jack becomes fully dependent on whoever provides for him. Employees and servants are paid, and slaves and indentured servants work for room and board while paying off some sort of debt, or so that they don't get punished by those who own them.
Jack is one hundred percent owned once that second little key is found, (assuming it already hasn't been, or if it even exists), and if Shelia takes possession she might even have some lingering animosity toward both Jack and his wife for screwing up her imperfect marriage by making her willing and available to Jim's barbaric desires once that fact becomes known, (as illogical as that sounds given the timeline of things here). Despite Shelia's powerful and dominate personality, she also may have, (or come to have) some regrets about loosing Jim to what to her is a lesser submissive woman.
I believe Jack's safe word will ultimately turn out to be a phrase that Jack will under no circumstances ever say, Jim rather clever in his choices here, but overall in this story he has played his hand well. Jack's lust for this fantasy and willingness to agree to anything Jim asked just to play along is almost as strong as his wife's, but in his case there can be no post orgasm rationality without the key, at least in traditional terms.
What if though Jim was wrong and there is no second key, and what if Jack merely popped off without any physical contact to his locked up guy hardware after that first date because his erotic and foolish fantasy looked to be realized?
I have a few directions I could go with this and I look forward to your thoughts on this, Jackie.
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Force is such a harsh word, do you really picture a sweet innocent little pussy cat as someone who would force you? Make you? Demand and expect better of you, and use all sorts of methods to achieve this goal...
Actually, no need to answer that *evil smirk*
Now this is a great deal to think about! First though, your comment about Shelia and logic, emotions, which is what we are discussing here, are famously not really ruled or dictated by logic. I can SO see her being jealous of and angry towards Jack and his wife, the new woman in Jim's life, especially when this new woman is both a near perfect compliment to Jim, but also brings out all of these wonderful behaviours, time, attention and especially MONEY being lavished on her.
We both see and know it is not really about the money, but having Jim be so willing and happy to spend money on her, to make sure that she has the fine things in life, is only going to add to his appeal in Jackie's eyes, and give Shelia a focus for her emotions.
First though, all of this brought up a question that I cannot clearly answer with a quick scan over the first few parts. Does Jackie (I need a name for the wife, not sure if she is actually named off hand) have a job? Does she work? Is she a successful and powerful career woman in her own right? The presentation of her, the "feel" of her, her way of being, all suggest to me that she does and she is, so I will continue on this basis.
If she was a stay at home wife she would have a lot of time to keep Jack under her thumb and in control, but would she actually want to? She is pushing him back and away, her anger at his betrayal, if indeed there was one, clearly very strong!
Actually a rather interesting thought has just occurred to me. "You cannot prove a negative, only a positive". There is no way for Jack to prove to Jackie's satisfaction that he does not have the other key for his belt. This whole situation is about sex, fantasies, pleasure and satisfaction, including his long term denial, so of course it will feel natural, and deeply angering, for him to have kept the spare key. Any claims to have lost it, thrown it away or even destroyed it are going to ring hollow and desperate, even if true.
Which brings me back to the question of Jack, his job, his role in all of this, and how he should be treated. If he is asked about the key and basically says there never was a second key - implying or even suggesting it must have been overlooked in the packaging and thrown out with the box, this is not going to do anything to help his case. But the flip side is that he clearly cannot be left to his own devices, or left unsupervised, since if he is left unsupervised then he is assumed to have access to and to be using his key, so violating his contract and commitment.
We have no knowledge of where this key "has been hidden" for safety, so the only times you can be sure Jack is not betraying you is when he is under direct observation. So having him quit his job does not work at first, since it just gives him more free time for "wicked betrayal" while Jim and Jackie are out at work.
So yes, reaching the point where Jack needs to be kept under control and monitored seems like a relatively small step here, but how to achieve it? Given this situation, having a suddenly more available Jack loaned out to Shelia makes a lot of sense, since she is far enough away that while he is acting as her maid (it seems a fitting mental image) he is not going to have access to the hiding place of his suspected key.
Not knowing about the other key has another bonus, the one year contract starts from the point of handing over both keys, so without the second key, the contract does not officially start in Jackie's eyes. Plus I do note that Jackie never agreed on Jack having a safe word with her or the contract...
Jim being wrong about there being a second key isn't really reasonable, especially since the website lists 2 keys, and 2 keys is the standard number with any form of lock I am familiar with. But I can see an overly excited and desperate Jack not paying attention to the details and loosing the key. I can also see him hiding the key to ensure he gets the best of both worlds, his fantasy but also a safety valve on his fantasy.
As for physical contact and Jack having an orgasm, we have already seen Jack come in his pants while watching Jackie dance with Jim, early in the story, so now he is living his fantasy, and everything is coming together, its no great stretch to imagine that he is able to orgasm on his own, even with the device locked on. It may not be quick and easy, but that is only going to add to the sense of satisfaction, and the potency of the experience of living this fantasy :)
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I think Shelia, (with her possible irrational animosity toward her former neighbors), would make the perfect person to take charge of Jack while Jim gets settled into (Jackie's) house after his sells. I also see the only practical way to deliver (or have Shelia pick up) Jack and ensure he hasn't taken the key with him is to deliver him naked, or possibly have him strip down to nothing as Jim and Jackie watch, possibly they giving him a new uniform of sorts to be worn as he travels to Shelia's new home by either method.
A gender bending maid's outfit could be too cliché, but would prevent him from any attempts to escape, and further his emasculation along with the chastity cage he is trapped in and panties he must wear. I could envision Shelia working out her rage while training up Jack in his female persona, possibly to keep him herself, or as some sort of quid pro quo with Jim for something not yet named when she returns him properly trained for his new role.
I also could see Jack's emasculation taking a further slide if he were to be kept shaved and his hair grown out and styled in an effeminate way while kept in Shelia's possession, female maid's uniforms the only clothing in his new closet. There is also the possibility that Shelia might have a man friend or two of her own, and girl friends as well that would see and interact with the female Jack, further demoting him in man terms as they enjoyed his self inflicted discomfort that Shelia was only too happy to explain while he was made to listen.
Jack has popped himself off with this fantasy of his at least twice, but I don't think those emissions would have been satisfying sexually, more of a biological clearing of the plumbing, assuming he doesn't have the key and can't get "hands on" relief. With this in mind his fantasy might not be all that fantastic in the real world, more of a letdown, but still a situation of his own making.
This scenario of feminizing Jack would be in keeping with Jim's desires to permanently remove Jack from the competition, and Jack's submissive alter ego might even grows to like it, or at least tolerate it as he has no other choice. Jack might still harbor the misconception that this is just for a year, but if he does too bad for him.
As to the key I am of two minds, keep it a permanent mystery and never have it found, of have Jim at some point well past the point of no return admit that he has had the second key since the beginning of this adventure, possibly even having Jackie tell Jim that she already knew he did when he confesses this to her.
What are your thoughts on this, Jackie?
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Interesting questions and points...
While I do agree that a gender bending maid's outfit sounds quite cliché, there is a reason it is such a common and well used theme, it has an appeal, a purpose, and sends a powerful message. How it is done, the "why" of it, and the way people around Jack and how they are encouraged to treat Jack will be what really matters here.
Let's start from a different point. If not a maid's outfit, then what? What is our goal here? Jack's new role is basically servant, but more than this, a controlled, sexless and humiliated servant, who needs to be clearly shown and reminded of his place. So any "polite" or "respectable" outfit is not going to work well, and once Shelia gets the idea, and gets behind this, I suspect she will want to firmly push the "you are lesser, I am more" aspect.
I find myself drawn to, and seeing the strong appeal of the idea of Jack being pushed into a female slave role here, but there is one "flaw" in the logic we need to watch for. At first, when presented with a very female, and presumably sexually suggestive outfit, the outfit and the embarrassment alone will do a good job of controlling and containing (preventing escape) only at first. The more his hair, and behaviour is changed to bring on a feminine look, the more he will pass for a woman, so become less embarrassed being seen in public like this.
Only providing "slutty" female clothes will help here, and I can see it fitting with the feel and thinking at work here to. But still, as the move towards a female slave Jack continues, another line of control is likely to be required. But this could be as "simple" as no ID, no money, no access to any of his old accounts, etc.
In all of this I have this mental image of Shelia as "spiteful". It's not really the word I want, but it comes close. Certainly I can see her taking out her emotions on Jack, and probably flaunting her treatment of Jack in front of Jim and Jack's wife. Of course, since this will be exactly what they are looking for, and will enjoy it, its only likely to encourage Shelia to try harder in her torment of Jack.
Which brings me to thinking about Jack's chastity, and how Shelia will want to both preserve and "enhance" it. Preserving is very simple, just make sure he has no access to any possible key, along with regular and random checking. A few blobs of glue or wax can also be added to the cage, so show if it is ever opened, since they will break, and won't be the same afterwards.
To enhance the chastity would Shelia want Jack to just watch her sexual activities, and to know how much fun both Shelia and his wife are having? Or would she want to reinforce the contrast by using Jack's body for her and other's sexual pleasure while denying his own release? I find myself thinking that using maid Jack for sex, for the sole pleasure of others, would fit well here.
Oh yes, I can definitely see Jack starting to count down the days and the months until the year is up, and using this to help settle himself as things get more and more out of hand, and as he is denied the pleasure he wants from this intense fantasy experience.
I think keeping the key as a mystery probably works better, for the reason that it is this small, tiny "niggle" in the back of everyone's mind. Jim, Shelia and "Jackie" all suspect there is a key, and appreciate it needs to be kept well out of Jack's hands, but if they cannot prove this, cannot find the key, the niggle is never satisfied, it keeps bothering Jackie in quiet moments, and it gives her a focus for her guilt over her changing relationship with her "former husband" and the "new husband" she is getting ever closer to.
Another thought, what still ties Shelia and Jim together? I am thinking something vague, but important, like shared stakes in a long term investment, something that it is easier to keep than to unwind, but also something that Shelia thinks she can still use to bring pressure onto Jim. Jim does not strike me as the sort of man to be bothered by this sort of vague, and hurting both Shelia and himself threat, but it would provide an interesting bargaining chip to go alongside introducing Shelia to Jack.
Making Jack less of a person, and more of an object, a form of ongoing payment, in terms of slave labour, someone to humiliate, and a way to work out her emotions at how well Jim is moving on with his life with a new woman, in exchange for the cooperation she was always likely to give Jim with this shared asset.
Another thought, how is Jackie going to feel and react, watching and seeing Jack become ever more controlled and subservient. Will she be bothered by this? Probably not much or for long. Will some aspects of it remind her of the power and control games that Jim plays with her? The stark contrast always being that she has a safe word with Jim, while Jack has no such thing with her and the one known key to release his chastity.
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I absolutely love these interactions and collaborations we have here Feline, they force me to write better.
I had intended to have Jack become an economic prisoner with no job and no money of his own no matter whos possession he found himself in, and no I.D. in his possession, nor one matching his new feminine persona would work well along those lines as well. It would be one thing to make him/her passable as a woman, quite another to make him "sexy", although sexy to whom I guess would be the real question.
I could see Jack's idea of sex in general, driven by sexual frustration and desperation, driving him to beg to be allowed to do all sorts of things he may never have dreamed of pre chastity device, most especially if his device can truely be made escape proof. I could see a drop of superglue inside the tumblers of the tiny padlock doing this nicely although permanently, negating any key he may have or not have hidden away someplace, at least in terms of traditional removal.
… My significant other and I have experience with these kinds of chastity devices, we having tried several made of both steel, and plastic of one form or another, (and one impossibly small stainless steel one that choked off the blood flow to his man bits). My conclusion is that no matter how expensive or well fitting the device is, it can still leave a man with an escape route if he is both flacid and determined, unless of course you want to have him peirced and then the pin or ring you have installed there is then locked to the end of the chastity tube. We havn't done this to date, but I do save it as a threat when I'm feeling especially playful...
I think a tiny waist chain snugly locked around Jack's waist and locked to the exisiting padlock of his chastity device might prevent an unauthorized escape, not to mention that if it looked like jewelery it could enhanse his femininity, but in the real world we havn't tried this out yet so I don't know for sure if this would work. If Jack were to be locked like this it would be an easy thing to drop a second thin ornmental chain, (also locked to the chastity device), between his/her legs and holding a plug in his rear. Such could give his/her hips a lovely sway to them, but again we havn't tried this out yet either so I don't know if this would work on a man as I assume it might.
As far as the investment both Jim and Shelia share, I think the house they still collectively own fits this nicely, and I wonder what would happen if Jim couldn't find a buyer for what he thought it was really worth, whether this was realistic or not, and Jim and Shelia were forced to rent it out to provide her with the added income she expected from Jim. Could this high end home possibly come with a maid/servant? One that not only worked to take care of the new occupants, but was also there to report any problems so as to protect Jim and Shelia's investment.
I could see living right next door to Jackie and her new lover in what was once his/her house as a maddening experience, most especially if Jack had the dual duty of keeping up with both homes, his true identity hidden from the nosey neighbors by an effective feminization.
I also wonder what you would think of Jack becoming fully cuckoled? As in Jim and Jackie producing a child with their over the top lust, possibly something Jack had been trying to do himself for years without getting the job done, this lack of manly performance perhaps leading him to his cuckold desires in the first place. If that were the case it would be natural for Jackie to assume her female hardware was responcible for any lack of breeding success, possibly even a mistaken doctor confirming this, and she therefore not the slightest bit concerned about any birth control during their lusty romps.
I could also tell the story from the other side and make Shelia the infertal one, Jim in search of an heir, and possibly even Shelia on board with this, but either story line might drift out of the fun kink the story is about, and turn off readres in general as kids complicate any sex story for obvious reasons.
I an again currious about your thoughts on this, Jackie.
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Sorry for the delay, it took longer than expected to get back to this and finish my thoughts.
This is good fun and informative for both of us, and it is good to think more clearly about what is going on here.
Jack, starting with no money and no ID is a fairly simple step, once the decision is made. Passable as a woman should not be too much of a step. Sexy is a much more interesting and open ended question and point. We probably want to start by thinking about the goal here, since starting other places isn't helping my thinking much.
Passing Jack off as a sexy and single woman might be a fun aim, but it starts getting to close to giving Jack the ability to function independently. Plus we are not going to be getting away from the whole male in chastity fact any time soon, so anyone wanting to make use of the sexy female Jack would be well advised to know this is going on.
Much as it frustrates me to accept it, the female is often considered to be the lower status gender, so making Jack female works well on several mental and emotional fronts. The more I consider this, the more I find myself leaning towards "Jack, you could not make a successful man, and you clearly cannot make a successful woman, so we will just have to make what use of you we can", a world view I can see Shelia absolutely delighting in delivering.
So a passable woman to a casual observer, and "sexy" as a kept and denied house slave works well here, at least for Shelia, and everyone she wants to show Jack off to.
My knowledge of chastity devices is purely second hand, but yes, I have also heard that the only way to make one of them fully escape proof is to use a piercing at the end of the penis as an anchor point.
So, this suggests a two stage approach to keeping Jack locked up and secure. I am not sure about glue in the lock, since removing hope of release may not be helpful. The one key secured and out of reach is one thing, but they key is still "available".
As a first step, monitoring Jack, how submissive he is, how eager to please, how desperate he is. If he suddenly becomes noticably less so, then this will be a strong hint that he has achieved an unauthorised orgasm, or at least some form of release, so he should be punished appropriately, and harshly.
Longer term, how about a "symmetry" to the piercing? Somewhere along the line Jim brings up the idea of Jackie having her nipples pierced, as part of his marking and claiming of her as his property. When Jackie is not initially keen on this idea, Jack can suggest that in order to make it more "fair and reasonable", Jack should also be pierced, at the same time, only Jack will end up with a penis piercing and a new, and far more secure chastity device?
After all, it would be quite unreasonable to ask Jackie to go through anything that Jack is not going to also experience… yes, the two are hardly comparable, but both involve piercing, and marking in a way, so in this sense they are close enough to each other *wicked smirk*
A thought for you and your significant other, I read many years ago a book of spanking stories, and one of the stories pointed out that there should always be a reason for a spanking, but it should never be a real or serious reason, since that risks undermining the relationship. A point that I have generally considered to be very wise. As a result, my significant other is frequently asked to explain why Wednesday's are not their fault. So far only anecdotal evidence has been produced to support their claim that they are not responsible, and thus not guiltily…
Despite my best efforts Wednesday's keep on turning up… it seems I have my work cut out for me! :)
A waist chain and a plug… I am not sure how much this would alter the walk and gate, but instead of a "simple" plug, what about something of a double ended plug? Something that also sticks out… at first this is just confusing and apparently pointless, right up until you want to sit down… until you want to do anything other than stand waiting for instructions or kneel, as is right and proper for a little serving slave…
As for walking, and how you walk, some of this is effected by shoes - obviously - but some is just about how you choose to move yourself and your body, so it is certainly something that Jack can be trained in and pushed towards.
The house is indeed a simple and sensible asset solution. I see to many possible restrictions or complications with having the house rented out to someone else yet still come with a live in maid. But assuming that Shelia is currently renting, she either brings the maid to her new house, or moves back into the old house and takes over the maid there. Moving back into the old house keeps the maid nice and close, so he / she can be constantly reminded of how things are going for his wife, and all of the fun she is having.
Not having to pay rent, and having a maid to fully redecorate the house to her tastes and specifications will appeal to Shelia, and I can also see her liking the idea of rubbing her ex's nose in all of the men and women she will bring back home to have sex with. Of course that won't both him at all, not with Jackie being such a good fit for him… so who will Shelia end up having to take her hard feelings out on… I wonder :)
I have not come across this definition / concept of fully cuckoled before, it is interesting, but it also raises all sorts of emotional questions.
I would be tempted to approach this gently, with Jackie being late enough in her period to suggest she is now pregnant, which is something that could never happen with her husband. If Jack had always insisted that he had been tested, and the doctor assured him it wasn't his problem, well, this is going to change things for Jackie. It was just a false alarm, but it sets off a set of much bigger changes.
I think a large part of my wariness here comes from a deep instinct towards wanting and needing to see a "happy family", wanting to know that both parents will be there long term for the children. As you say, getting into family building stands a strong chance of taking us out of erotic and kinky fun. But enough of a pregnancy scare to point out a massive and long standing lie that Jack has been living, and "forcing" onto Jackie, that gives us a lot of the positives without the same issue, especially if Jackie is seen to be considering making Jim the father of her possible children.
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I agree that making Jack an economic prisoner would be easy, and I do see your point on making Jack's female persona to convincing, giving him/her an escape route of sorts, but escape to where? "Home" is off limits, or will soon be with a new alpha male residing there, and there are always evil men out there who would just love to catch and play with something like Jack for a time. Shelia could even engineer this if she should have to travel on business, neither the female nor the male Jack responsible enough to be left in either home alone.
I like the idea of keeping Jack in neither gender club, but a female Jack removes him from competition with Jim. Total medical transformations are costly however, and somewhat permanent, where effective window dressing is in relative terms cheap and easy. Jack won't be getting any costly boob job for the simple fact that he doesn't need boobs to be a good maid in either house. Breast augmentation is expensive, and Jack just isn't worth the investment in a risk vs reward way.
I could see feminizing drug therapy adding perhaps a pushed up B cup to his chest, eventually, all while shrinking his unused man hardware and redistributing his male fat patterns over time, while at the same time softening his skin and negating constant shaving. Tattooed makeup to enhance his cheek bones and eyes could help as well, and save him precious time in the morning while getting ready, and at the same time remind him every time he looked in the mirror how far he has slid from where he once was.
I also like the useless as a man, and not quite a real woman positioning, and powerful and dominate Shelia would roll over top of his submissive character like a steam roller. I suspect she will blame him for messing up her marriage with Jim by making Jackie available for Jim's attentions, ignoring the timeline entirely, but rational behavior and displaced spouses don't always go hand in hand.
The piercings are a great idea, although I'm not a fan of getting my nipples pierced in the real world, but I suppose that's the whole idea. Could both piercings have a little tag the read "Property if Jim" warning anybody who might see or be compelled to touch them that each was already owned and spoken for? Jack's ear lobes would have to also be done obviously to hold a feminine little stud, or even a large and impossible to miss hoop of some kind, perhaps this being the excuse used to visit the piercing studio in the first place for his more intimate jewelery.
It would be fun to have Jack sent away for a time in Shelia's company, only to be returned to the service of Jim and Jackie after Shelia had properly trained and broken Jack in. I could imagine Jackie being very pregnant by that time if Jim had managed to get the job done by then, he planting his proverbial flag in what was now known to be fertile soil and solidifying his place as the for ever after dominate alpha male of the three.
I also agree that this could ruin the fun kink of the story, and I'm reluctant to do it for that reason alone. Perhaps this is a good story to use two alternate endings as I've done in the past, or even perhaps I could just have Jackie telling Jim, (or us) about one of her dreams in which Jim had made her pregnant?
The for real cuckolding thing comes from the bird world where I think it's common for the female bird to go out on a proverbial date and get knocked up, she then coming home to the nest and the male bird helping her with the egg, and then the hatchling as if it was his. Along these lines Jack could then become the nanny to his wife's child, or children this way, but it would be hard to tell that story and keep it kinky fun.
I also agree with the glue, but what if Jack didn't know it was glue, what if Jackie told Jack that it was a lubricant so that the lock's mechanism didn't rust up from "non use" with showers and baths and all of that? What if this was Jim's idea, and he put the "lubricant" in Jack's special lock himself to ensure that no key could ever open that lock again? The only way Jack would discover this would to be if he indeed did have possession of that second key, perhaps he himself breaking off the hidden little key in the lock himself in a fit of frustration to get the thing off at some critical juncture in the story?
If this were the case Jack couldn't admit to having something he had denied having, his treachery aided by Jim's sabotage and sealing his fate as it were. I think it's one thing to screw something up yourself, whether that's bumping into something with your new car, or a relationship, but quite another to have somebody do it for you. Add to this if that someone had malicious intent and did it intentionally!
As far as the house they both still own, Jim and Shelia that is, what if both of them owned several rental properties together and that was Jim's business. Both might be able to use a maid to help out between renters, or in the service of the renters to keep an eye on Jim and Shelia's investments if the property were upscale enough. Both Jim's and Jackie's houses might find themselves rented out in that case, the "happy trio" eventually moving to a new place and neighborhood where Jim was thought to be Jackie's wife by the neighbors, and the happy couple successful enough to even afford a live in maid.
Shelia could still borrow Jack from time to time that way, or he would have a place to go when the happy and successful couple went on vacation together.
As far as females being the weaker sex, Shelia most certainly isn't weak, either physically or mentally, and I plan on having her discovered to be more than proficient in some sort of martial arts at some point in the story. Will Jack discover this first, or will it be Jackie as the two ladies get to know each other? I haven't decided this yet, but I could see Jackie being all bound up and waiting for Jim to come home and take advantage of her, only to have Shelia to drop by instead and take her proverbial pound of flesh for stealing her former husband.
As far as the chastity device and the paddle, once the former's on him for a week or two he becomes positively submissive and docile, (and impossibly useful), and submitting to my paddle is an easy thing to make happen. Make the bed sloppily or dare to give me any backtalk and I have no problem bending him over the bed with my knee in his back and swatting him harshly enough to make him think twice. It's a fun game, but the worst part of it is keeping him busy with chores even though it sounds counterintuitive. It's actually a chore to keep a chastity servant busy, for me, and if I only could find a way to farm out that job once in a while it would be even more fun, but that's impossible for several reasons.
It has been suggested that I give him a list of duties and ensure they are done to a ridiculously high standard as opposed to directing him to do chores one at a time, and that sounds wonderful, but there has to be the promise of kink to make such games work, at least for us.
Thank you again for your thoughtful words, Jackie.
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So many fun thoughts to consider, I really must keep more of an eye on our conversations, so I don't take so long to reply *blush*
For me, part of the thinking about "trapping" Jack was mental, as much as practical. I see and completely agree with your point about "running where?", but I simply had not thought of this from this point of view. I started with a much smaller scale and focus here. If Jack is passing as a convincing and attractive woman, then "he" can go out for a night, get drinks paid for, let someone keep "her" company for a meal...
It gives a sense of confidence and independent existence. I have met several "ladies" where the first clue you have that they are not quite what they seem is when you discover the erection going on between their legs. Perhaps just the circles I move in, but I am quite used to seeing a confident female viewed as a desirable and respected person to talk to and interact with...
I think, in very vague terms, what is happening here is that I am thinking of "you", the author, who I see as a mind with real drive and focus, as the "female role model" here. So I then think of Shelia and the married Jackie as similar strong and capable women. Yes, married Jackie wants a stronger man in her life, but she has set about doing this with strength, purpose and will!
But the other side, as Jack "fails" as a man, we want this submission to continue, rather than to give him confidence and power as a woman, we want Jack to see being a woman as a lesser role, that he also fails at, but also all that he is suitable for and good for.
Cosmetic surgery seems overkill for Jack, but a good pair of fake breasts (breast forms) would do wonders for helping her to fill out her outfits, look the role, and encourage the whole talking to the tits, not my face, side of being a female who is looked down upon by men.
Having Sheila pass Jack off to someone else to babysit while she has to travel fits very well with the wicked and wilful woman I find myself picturing her as being.
I never saw a need to keep Jack from competing with Jim, so this concept is quite a surprise for me. I see the logic, so I have been wondering why I was not thinking in these terms. For me, Jim is never going to be challenged by a "male Jack" simply because Jim is the dominant in this relationship. For now, at least, I see Jim as the dominant in a long running but consensual scene. So long as Jack does not safe word out and remains safely locked away then he is no threat, almost by definition. To my mind, the only "threat" to the situation could come from Jackie, the wife, not being so accepting of his advances. But this is being taken care of by treating her with the ongoing mixture of respect, gifts, and forcefulness that he is already using.
For Jackie the rules are changing, and with time the change will be felt by both men. For Jackie this is no longer a scene, Jack has burned to many bridges, has crossed to many lines, and finally, instead of feeling in a put upon position in her marriage, Jackie is discovering what it is like when things are much more about anticipating and fulfilling HER wishes and desires...
Oh yes, someone has to be at fault and blamed, and punished, for what happened to Shelia's marriage, and its oh so human that it won't be her. So Jack is the perfect one to blame, and she has various reasons to hold him fully responsible.
Piercings as a marker make sense on several fronts, but I find myself strongly against Jackie having "name tag" nipple piercings. I am not sure why I am so firmly against this, but perhaps the best way to describe it that I can think of is that it is "tacky", cheap and basic, and just does not fit with how I see Jim treating her.
Having said that, a small wrist or ankle chain that she cannot remove, that has the same message, but also functions as both general purpose jewellery and a subtle "collar" would fit rather well :)
The original idea was as much about getting Jackie to the point of agreeing to having Jack pierced as it was about anything else, while also providing an amusing echo / parallel :)
I see the logic, and quite a lot of the emotional power of the pregnancy, of Jackie ending up pregnant, but I really struggle to see how this can be done without disrupting the fun and erotic nature of the story... but, since we are thinking of coming at this from a different point of view... there is a lot to be said for Jackie rubbing Jack's nose it it, describing and telling him about the wild, passionate and spontaneous sex she has with Jim (made up, since no need to share the real events with Jack?), and pointing out how helpful it was him having his sperm checked all those years ago, since Jackie knows that she is not fertile, so they never have to pause in their passion to worry about condoms...
Perhaps a good way of making and driving home the point that she has known for some time that Jack was actually the one with the fertility problem, and that she came to terms with this years ago, but is now discovering that she still has a fair bit of buried bitterness and spite over his lies?
I love the evil thinking of glue that Jack applies to the lock himself, but there is a logical flaw here. Glue will build up and collect inside the mechanism, so it won't be long before Jack knows it is glue, since only a few drops will fill up a small padlock hole. But something else he added to the lock, perhaps something that happened to eat away at the mechanism instead... You can keep on applying that without it ever filling up...
But it also opens the door to Jack retrieving his hidden key and finding it does not work, since the inside of the padlock is now loose, with some of the components dissolved away over time. Again though, how can he bring up this discovery without admitting to keeping and trying to use the spare key?
I like the idea of having Jim and Jackie move, so they can be more open about living as a couple, but on the flip side, they can be open without judgement, but it avoids the constant embarrassment and reminders for Jack from his old neighbours, his old neighbourhood, of all that he has given up and all that is now Jim's instead.
As for your life and companion, the number of people I have met over the years who think, and are quite sure that the life of the one in charge is all roses, being waited on hand and foot, all of the attention yet none of the responsibility and work... *rude snort* The only ones who get any of that are the shallow assholes and it never lasts for them.
Making this fun and erotic for both of you is the key. Have you explored pampering? This is a random idea, but for farming out, find and send your man on a course on giving a full body massage. This is a skill that will take a fair bit of time and effort to really learn, and it is a skill that should exist specifically to be lavished on you, the key holder, the one you want to impress, the one you want to reward...
If not massage then some other valuable and you focused skill? Training is a form of farming out, if you can find skills you would enjoy him learning. Just a thought, and it has to be very focused on the two of you, otherwise it stops being fun, but something like this might just work :)
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Thank you so much for several very good thoughts.
Jack is trapped in his fantasy, or more accurately the hard reality that the "real world" had delivered to him instead. I like the idea of a passable female maid Jack as opposed to an empowered and sexy "I am going on a dinner date to hopefully get laid" Jack. Unless of course the date was set up for just exactly such a purpose by one of the other characters in a position of authority over Jack.
I have it in mind that Jack going out with a man for some romantic purpose, even if it didn't lead to sex of some kind, would be very taboo for him, but of course that's the whole idea. Servicing and serving, and sleeping with men brings him even farther from Jackie, and his failed manhood, as would that first delicious kiss. Could this be seen as Jim's spiking of the ball in the endzone after his big score, even if he wasn't the one to set up the actual date in the first place?
Could Shelia instead do this, perhaps even applying the three dates rule of Jackie's in tongue and cheek fashion? Could some other situation instead develope where Jack was sold off or lent to some other worthy charitable orginization for some of the same things?
I could see either thing happening, and Jack's sexual frustrations getting the better of him should he be kept away from his second key and some form of release, and he therefore even becoming a quasi willing partner.
I like the tiny "man" boobs in a pushup bra look for the female Jack instead, he not needing, nor deserving real or even false large ones to perform his primary duties of cleaning and cooking. I could also see Jack's only form of eventual escape from his chastity device (assuming the second key remains out of his reach) to be estrodgen like supplements to shrink his man bits. Such would eventually cause his device to safely fall off, but at the same time render him hairless and grow out his man boobs somewhat.
Shelia passing off Jack for babysitting while she was traveling would be wonderful, especially with the admonishment that any bad reports back to her would lead to severe consquences of some kind. I could imagine several of these, permenant female makeup tatood onto his face to remind him of his new and ever more permenant female status every time he looked in the mirror being one of them.
Jack's safe word is actually a phrase chosen specifically by Jim that Jack just won't say. Jackie only knows it exists and not what it is, this not an accident on Jim's part. Should Jackie develope any deep second thoughts on this arrangement, Jim could just remind her of the secret phrase that Jack had never thought necessary to use. It's in a way disengenous of Jim, but he has already chosen to keep Jackie at any cost, Jack just inconvennently in the way at the moment.
I also expect Shelia to be ruthless in her treatment of Jack for obvious and illogical reasons, and possibly Jackie as well if the opportunity presents itself.
I will steer clear of the pregnacy aspect of this story as well, your logic on this is hard to argue with, but Jack being the infertile one and Jackie not taking any precautions presents an obvious delima. Perhaps Jackie will suddenly get on the pill, something she has never had to do since "her" infertility had been discovered, Jack painfully noticing this in the medicine cabnet while he plays maid for the two lovers. Perhaps she's already on the pill, Jack just noticing this and now knowing his "lie" has been a known thing all along. Could this be another in a long line of betrayals? Jack's character overall then in serious doubt and he deserving of whatever fate, or Jim and Shelia throw his way.
Jim and Jackie having a place of their own could go either way as you have pointed out, but selling off Jack's sharred asset with Jackie is another finacial trap the unempoweres Jack for the future.
If the second key were ever to be found, (assuming Jim wasn't given it as a condition of parcipitating in this adventure from the start and hasn't encased it in concrete on his new patio, or something like that), I could see Jim taking a file to one of the tiny little bumps on it's surface before replacing it in it's hiding spot. This would render it useless, and when Jack went to use it he would either discover it's tampering with, or perhaps break it off in the lock himself and seal his fate permenantly, or until the hormone treatments take hold. Another option would be to involve a sympathetic surgeon, she perhaps removing Jack's man bits and not able to put them back on, (or in I would guess) for whatever reason. That would be evil fun, but fitting as Jack might end up being a rather undeserving "man" in general with his character flaws and all.
As far as the pampering, I have had enough massages that I have coached my significant other on what I in general like as a bedtime massage as I drift off to sleep, and he is most serving, especially after being locked up for at least two weeks. It's an amazing thing to experience, as are the well prepared weekend meals, the kitchen even cleaned up afterwards. It's great fun, but something I don't necessarily think all couples would appreciate, I however do. It's also work on my part, and best done on and off as the mood suits me, the 24/7/356 lifestyle you hear about just not possible from my point of view.
Thank you again for your kind words, Jackie.
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Reading part 7 now, and some thoughts as I read it, as normal :)
I really love and am savouring the raw passion and sexual energy of the first block. What also shines through, and so makes me smile, are the two different worlds, and world views that these two come from, and how it shows in their comments, reactions and expectations.
Jim is all about being careful not to push to far, not wanting to scare her off. While Jackie is so busy being blown away by the amazing experience she is simply left "begging" for more, while trying to remember that her man does have physical limits - *smirk* Oh the innocent and under abused woman! Clearly her husband really was not doing his all to service her, an especially serious crime given his submissive nature, and many promises to go down on her after sex. There are so many other ways to please a woman than just focussing on the penis...
Such a "submissive" act from Jim, yet done so aggressively and while Jackie is still bound and restrained... submissive and dominant are becoming far more interesting words for Jackie.
As for why a woman would let a man like this go, well, it depends what you want, and how well the two of you fit together. I have the strong sense that a man like Jim needs a *strong* woman he can control and own, someone with her own mind and will who chooses to give herself to him. This is no small or simple thing, but yes, if it can be found, it is deeply amazing for both of them!
I also smile at all of the steps that keep on proving the gulf between Jim and her actual husband, further increasing the need to replace one with the other oh so permanently *evil smirk*
Now that is interesting, why would I expect Jackie to feel guilt now, in the warm after glow of something that her husband promised but never delivered? Yes, guilt the morning after maybe, but now? Now I would expect her to be caught up in the moment, in the feel and texture of the man she is wrapped around.
Just a different way of processing is all though. But yes, yet again, the fact of the lies and lack of proper dedication from her husband are only going to reinforce her happiness and dedication to continuing this road he pushed so long and hard to get her to start down.
WOW! OK, the anger really is growing and bubbling away! Making Jackie and Jim tools for her husbands twisted pleasure?! Talk about topping from the bottom! Fair and reasonable thoughts, but that is one hell of a way to get her fury up!
OOOH, now that is a real delight at the end of the first section, a real and proper hint of Jim's views of Jack, and the situation they are in. Building on this clue, and thinking about what I know here, I can see Jim being an honourable man who is bound by the safe word with Jack, even as his emotions and feelings for Jackie make him all the more angry and disgusted with Jack, and his failings as a lover, supporter and husband.
*giggles* tell tale anklet? It screams to us who know what it is, its meaning and importance. But will Jack really be checking out your ankles to look for a possible anklet? Will he really be considering the "minor" details of your jewellery, or will he mainly be lost in the world of his own fantasies and desires? Sometimes what is massive and obvious to some is totally unnoticed by others.
Interesting, personally I would not have said that second thoughts were the mark of a submissive personality, since to me second thoughts are a mark of analysing and considering a situation, and how you can learn from it. Where you go with the thoughts and what you do with them will tell us about dominant or submissive, to my way of thinking.
Well, thats those second thoughts well and truly put in their place *evil smirk*
LOL, rolls on the floor laughing, I don't want to sell the now no longer wanted SUV yet, but it can be passed on to a worthy cause... MUWAHHHHH!
Oh my, delightful!
Yet we still have no idea what form the first key is going to take, once it has been encased by the jewellers, and there is the mystery of the second key as well... so much fun still to come!
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Part 8 up today.
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Yay, happiness, you are back and have returned to this story! It has felt like an age since the last update, but I do know full well that sometimes life just happens like this.
This was, as always, an amazing read, but I will admit to starting this part with a sinking heart, and quite a bit of sadness, given the chapter title of "Conclusion", and thinking this meant it was to be the last of it. Especially since, minor as it might seem, I still REALLY want to know what is happening with the first key, that has been left with the jewllers, not to mention the ongoing mystery of the possible second key. Well, we know there is a second key, we just don't know its location, or if Jack knows about it.
So realising that there is still more to come, and that you are still teasing us with hints of what is going on below the surface, and in the background that makes up this story really did brighten my mood and make me much happier :) Such power over my emotions and mood... writing that is hitting the spot!
One of the new teases has me wondering:
>> There was a sense of inevitability to this situation, and in a way irony, but that could have been my own prejudices seeping through in regards to a secret lie I had allowed to pass between Jack and I years earlier.
I find myself wondering if this references a knowledge going back years of his submissive desires, nature, and the apparent desire to serve his wife, and be a submissive. I use this wording deliberately, since having just re-read part 7, to get myself back up to speed, I am reminded both of the observation that despite promising many times to provide his wife with oral sex after intercourse, he never did, and also that there is a history of her ordering him to do housework, and micromanaging him, which she never enjoyed or looked forward to.
>> ...There was of course the possibility that Jim had made all this Visiting Maids stuff up, and if that were so it meant that Jim was a skilful and casual liar, the implications for myself as yet unknown, but I discounted that at the time as ridiculous, both love and lust blinding me to the possibility...
A fascinating piece of hind sight, and considering. Thinking about this question myself a bit, I have concluded that this is not happening, but perhaps for a different reason. Firstly, look at the passion, drive and desire Jim has always brought to both winning this woman to be his own, and to making her into his submissive. This is not the profile of a man who does not value her, or who lies to her. Secondly, it was the night before, when Jackie could not sleep, that she passed onto Jim the task of finding a solution to Jack hanging around under foot all of the time, and the effect this was going to have on her feelings and emotions. So enough time has passed for him to have found and start to set in motion a solution.
>> this "unloading of my burden" was liberating, and I felt myself getting aroused while sitting next to and watching Jim so easily dominate and manipulate our pathetically submissive chauffeur; the raw masculine power on display here intoxicating to me. I wanted Jim in that instant - in a deeply physical way - and I felt my body respond, knowing it
>> I loved it when Jim took charge, it just felt so natural and right, but his plans were a further escalation and directly involved me, and in this he apparently choose to walk this fine line between asking and telling. To me it felt like reading a contract written by someone else, one could either sign the contract, or not, but in either case the terms were already decided by another, in this case Jim.
MUWAHHHH!!!!!! Emotions feel like they are being turned to jelly here, in a good way! You have just captured something so delightful and lovely here, and made the moment come alive. Yes!
>> "...No sir, not at all," Jack lied, he clearly perturbed, and again this clearly not going like he expected it might, but alpha males can apparently spoil a perfectly good submissive's fantasy now and again.
>> If I were having any deep thoughts at that moment I might have wondered at the significance of that response from our chauffeur, there was however a single thought on my mind...
I get the feeling you are seeing and saying more here than I am perhaps picking up on. The "forced" requirement to call Jim "Sir" is the main thing that stands out here. Yes, Jack is lying in saying the complex orders are not a problem, and it is interesting that Jim said he would only explain certain rules once, and then expect them to be followed henceforward, a very interesting point, considering how poorly he did house work without his wife's supervision.
Still, is this all, or is there another note, another point, that I am missing here...
Either way, a wonderful and amazing part, and an excellent read!
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Thank you for your kind words, and please excuse my tardy response, but for some reason my first response (that wasn't the least bit tardy) didn't post. If the first one magically pops up at some point in the future it will look odd on the page, but now you know why...
I have been struggling with some serious writers block lately, even though I have a pretty good idea where all the characters end up in the end. That being said, the "how" I get them from here to there has been a problem lately.
Jack's fate as a feminized maid was always gong to happen, at least once Jim had used his free cleaning and chore services in his house while he was out on a date with Jackie. This is Jack's destiny, and his most useful mode, but I think Jim may have intended to move him along into that role more slowly, Jackie's need to remove him from the picture altering these plans slightly.
Playing Maid I think will be a better title going forward, I intend to write it as a stand alone piece, with Playing Chauffer as the obvious back story should anybody be interested. I know who has the second key, and that person knows where it is, but it is my intention to have it someplace that is within sight, but physically out of reach. This is a parallel to Jackie herself, desirably within sight, but out of reach due to Jack's own foolish actions and desires.
Sheila will get her pound of flesh at some point, and in my mind a safe word is just wonderful for Jack, but if he is kept as a maid in Sheila's company for a time, and she doesn't know about it, (or care) what difference does it make? That special phrase is intended for Jim's ears alone, and if the two are separated by a city, the safe word/phrase becomes moot. "If a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it, does it make a sound?"
Sheila I think will end up having something on Jackie, a secret something just between them that either "man" in this story doesn't know about. I also think she will use this to her advantage, but who could blame her?
I also intend to address the fertility problem with Jackie's found birth control pills, she not needing them for Jack, this being the secret lie that she has some serious lingering animosity over.
As far as Jim being a casual and skillful lier, Jackie has little to fear from this, unless she finds herself caught in a lie to him. I don't want to give away too much here, but the first chapter of Playing Maid has a lot going on in it. This is fairly easy as the characters are already known, something that would be difficult to do in the traditional short story.
I think Jack being forced to call Jim "Sir" acknowledges the latter's superiority over the former, crazy on the surface as we all expect Jack has gotten that message many times over by that point. This to me is where Jack's fantasy crashing into reality moment occurs. The getting rid of the useless SUV double entendre perhaps driving the point home that Jim owns Jack and everything that used to be his, and whatever he decides to do to or with him, (even for sadistic amusement), is just the way things are now.
Jack is a toy to be played with if it amuses Jim, and possibly one to be discarded if it fails to be useful going forward. Toys get broken, lost, even lent out to friends who don't care or treat them the same way. At that moment in time Jack would like to do nothing more that sit someplace and contemplate things, but he can't because he has been given a chore list to complete. In that instant Jack still could have "manned up" and practiced some form of resistance to Jim taking over his life and stealing his wife away, but none of us expected that...
I thank you again for your kind words of encouragement, and I hope to address all the unanswered questions in Playing Maid, Jackie.
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Ouch, sorry to hear about the writers block, that isn't going to be fun at all. I hope it passes really soon!
Knowing where you want to go is helpful, it should help to give you the shape of the story going forward.
Ah, now the title chapter makes much more sense. But "playing maid"? Something tells me that this will soon be more than merely "playing", then again, the title fits as a continuation of Playing Chauffer, so it makes perfect sense.
You have a very good and devious point about safe words and Sheila, but it occurs to me that someone else not only does not know, but has no interest in respecting the safe word, specifically Jackie herself... After all, down right angry is starting to be a good way of describing her views towards her locked up husband, and since she clearly feels very used by him, and also has the signed contract with him to "morally justify", as if that was required, her actions towards him, I don't see her having any time for or interest in the idea of him having, let alone using, a safe word!
Nods, a tipping point for Jack. In a sense it should have been clear for quite some time that things had moved well past his control, but there is what should be obvious, and what people think and feel inside themselves, which don't have to have much in common. So the idea that having to call Jim "Sir", especially when it is becoming clear that the rules of the game are undergoing a fundamental change, would act as a solid tipping point, and finally get him to start realising what is going on and what has happened, and that it is to late to just go back.
I don't remember anything about Jackie's birth control pills off hand, but it is a little while since I have re-read this story from the beginning, but I do have it saved out for delightful re-reading with time :) But this would certainly explain a certain secret lie or two...
Now you really have my interest piqued with talk of knowing who has the second key. I am really looking forward to seeing where you take this next, and to reading the next part of your lovely writing :)